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#81 kirinpet

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 12:01 PM

all plastic parts are made by abs.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 12:06 PM

QUOTE (kirinpet @ Jul 30 2008, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
all plastic parts are made by abs.


Its ture? made of A.B.S ? ohmy.gif

Where did you get information?

Edited by lee1hy, 30 July 2008 - 12:07 PM.


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Posted 30 July 2008 - 12:13 PM

QUOTE (lee1hy @ Jul 30 2008, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its ture? made of A.B.S ? ohmy.gif

Where did you get information?



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Posted 30 July 2008 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE (kirinpet @ Jul 30 2008, 04:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Great! It's not so expensive because all made by CNC.



I believe it is inexpensive because it's made out of cheaper pot metal. Which is not a bad thing. However I forsee some serious issues with Inokatsu using a pot metal bolt (loading nozzle) on this WA GBB design. Hopefully they have a plastic insert for the actual nozzle.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 03:11 PM

It may not be CNC, but it's NOT diecast. It's forged, which is how real M4s are built as well.
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Posted 30 July 2008 - 04:41 PM

QUOTE (Titleist @ Jul 30 2008, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It may not be CNC, but it's NOT diecast. It's forged, which is how real M4s are built as well.


Hey Titleist, I can tell you want this gun to be a winner wink.gif however, and I'm sure you'd do this anyway, I'd let someone else buy this before laying down the $$.....the pain is all the more real when it hits you in the wallet biggrin.gif

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 06:21 PM

True story. Someone with lots of money to waste, destruction test it, then buy me one. Then buy Inoakatsu and get my goddamned L85.
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Posted 30 July 2008 - 06:40 PM

QUOTE (kirinpet @ Jul 30 2008, 08:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
all plastic parts are made by abs.


Well then, i stand corrected. I still dont think its ABS judging by the pictures but we will just have to see.
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Posted 30 July 2008 - 08:47 PM

C'mon its a toy gun, who cares if its ABS smile.gif
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Posted 31 July 2008 - 01:42 AM

QUOTE (Inq Eisenhorn @ Jul 31 2008, 05:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
C'mon its a toy gun, who cares if its ABS smile.gif


Right, this is toygun as you say. So Why they are made of metal body with real type manufacturing processes?

if this is toygun as you say, Why dont you made all plastic and cheap diecasting? you dont have borken ABS parts in field?


Edited by lee1hy, 31 July 2008 - 01:44 AM.


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Posted 31 July 2008 - 03:38 AM

Ah, the ABS-question once again. People just don't know what it means. G&P announce their parts to be ABS all the time, when in fact they are quite nice composite polymer. I don't care if someone says the parts are butter. When I hold them I know what they really are.

As for die cast / forged / CNC'd... The receivers are forged first to make a rough piece, then finished with a CNC-machine. That's how real receivers are produced. You can't forge it directly into a finished piece with holes and all. Machines to make the forgings are ridiculously expensive, and there are maybe 2-3 companies in the US who produce all of the forgings for all the manufacturers of AR-15 type rifles. It wouldn't surprise me if these receivers would be based on forgings from the US, and were simply machined into Airsoft receivers instead of real ones.

QUOTE (ZackyD @ Jul 29 2008, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did anyone notice that the trigger assembly is just semi auto? There no full auto disconnector etc. in the picture.

The hammer and disconnector are full auto type, as is the selector switch. The lower receiver has the hole for the full auto sear drilled, and in the pictures you can see there's a pin too. There's just one part missing from the picture with the trigger parts, and that one is stamped sheet steel even in the original WA. I wouldn't worry: It is full auto.
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Posted 31 July 2008 - 06:44 AM

*edited* looks like the selector is just semi auto

Edited by ZackyD, 31 July 2008 - 07:09 AM.


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Posted 31 July 2008 - 12:16 PM

bear in mind also if your not happy with ABS parts
there are plenty of nylon alternatives available.

also there may be a semi auto only version
but as the vids show , full auto will also be catered for.

Edited by lewis hiscock, 31 July 2008 - 12:17 PM.

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 12:33 PM

Then it is, by definition, not a selector. wink.gif

EDIT: Had one more look and compared them with images at AR15.com, and it still looks like a set of full auto parts to me.

http://www.ar15.com/content/legal/AR15-M16Parts/

Edited by Sale, 31 July 2008 - 12:46 PM.

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 02:43 PM

The videos clearly showing it bursting, and doing full auto, you'd be daft not to believe it at that point.
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never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 03:30 PM

QUOTE (Sale @ Jul 31 2008, 05:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then it is, by definition, not a selector. wink.gif



Actually it would still be a selector. But you could only "select" between Safe & Semi.

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 03:32 PM

hah, at that point it's usually called a SAFETY.
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never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 05:49 PM

oh i was well aware this is full auto, just at first glance it appeared they were using semi auto trigger group for the photo. i was wrong with that assumption.

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 09:59 PM

QUOTE (Sale @ Jul 31 2008, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then it is, by definition, not a selector. wink.gif



QUOTE (GBB Nut @ Jul 31 2008, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually it would still be a selector. But you could only "select" between Safe & Semi.



QUOTE (Titleist @ Jul 31 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hah, at that point it's usually called a SAFETY.


seriously guys , do we really need this argument?...
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Posted 01 August 2008 - 06:37 AM

QUOTE (lewis hiscock @ Jul 31 2008, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
seriously guys , do we really need this argument?...


Yes! J/K wink.gif




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