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[eece2011]

Just accidentally came across this on youtube.


http://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=nitzz&logNo=140148538167&viewDate=&currentPage=1&listtype=0&from=postList

seems a new release from this year by a low-key korean company and I 'd say it is *fruitcage* amazing, best tokarev springer ever! although it is a direct copy of the earlier Japanese Hudson TT-33 GBB, the price is really fair enough.

cant wait to get one!

[Isamu]

Looks good, maybe a bit hard to skrmish but good for impressions or casual plinking... wish it was done with the "gindan" (hope I spelled it right) TM system for semiauto springuers...

[my_plague_666]

Looks good, maybe a bit hard to skrmish but good for impressions or casual plinking... wish it was done with the "gindan" (hope I spelled it right) TM system for semiauto springuers...

why? you'd lose the realistic trigger, the hammer, the slide pull and all the power? the gindan system is for children, the spring is cocked by the trigger so it's seriously weak.

[Isamu]

Im more a skirmisher than a collector or impresionist, so I prefer a weak semiauto springuer than a more powerful hand cocked one... although I agree I would loose some cool features, at the end of the day, its all about personal preference

[eece2011]

why? you'd lose the realistic trigger, the hammer, the slide pull and all the power? the gindan system is for children, the spring is cocked by the trigger so it's seriously weak.

think about the RS Tokarev itself, which is only 8-round fully loaded, so never even expect to have a so-called HI-CAP to skirmish with. The KWA's GBB just has a merely 11-round Magazine.

[hitmanNo2]

Kind of irrelevent now though what with the KWA GBB coming out soon. Still a cheap holster filler none the less.

[eece2011]

Kind of irrelevent now though what with the KWA GBB coming out soon. Still a cheap holster filler none the less.

different points though.
KWA's has already lost points on realism, instead of the original Russian copy, it pretty much replicates the east-bloc's model with a retarded scale imbalance in the slide and grip size. I 'd say KWA fully copies the externals of the taiwanese-Wahshan's CAP tokarev.
you have tons of choices to fill your holster, like the innumerable and deadly boring 1911s and M9s,but this one is really rare on the airsoft market.
Instead, this one converts the most realistic Tokarev airsoft (Japanese Hudson TT-33) to a springer, which is more than amazing to be a wall-hanger.

PS: dude trust me, I am the TOKAREV KING and know bunch of WW2 stuff collectors from different countries in the world,but just sadly have not met a second one be a huge fan of Tokarev like me.

[WhiteHawksan]

I might point out that 99% of us, arne't fussed on the exact model, as long as it is Tokarev, it will do (especially if it shoots alright)

[adadqgg]

I might point out that 99% of us, arne't fussed on the exact model, as long as it is Tokarev, it will do (especially if it shoots alright)

Think about it: realistic action/field stripping, springer...low capacity magazine...
Which part of this does not scream "buy teh kool KWA with semi-auto" to this 99% of people? This springer is not for those 99%.

I saw a springer is perfectly fine for realisticly executing un-cooperating nazi/capitalist prisoners of war.

Not to mention that this is a springer; the last tokarev springer that came out onto the market was pretty cheap and did not function like this one.
No need to be comparing this relatively cheap springer to a KWA gbb.
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This is perfect for a wallhanger.

I will buy one if price is right and proudly display it on my left wall.

Realisticly, I would be issued a Makarov if I ever get promoted.

Edited by adadqgg, 25 January 2012 - 08:47 AM.

[my_plague_666]

Im more a skirmisher than a collector or impresionist, so I prefer a weak semiauto springuer than a more powerful hand cocked one... although I agree I would loose some cool features, at the end of the day, its all about personal preference

you seem to be misunderstanding how weak gindans are, they're about 75 fps with 0.12g BBs plastic inner barrel, so range and accuracy are shocking too. utterly useless for skirmishing, they're just kids toys.

[eece2011]

you seem to be misunderstanding how weak gindans are, they're about 75 fps with 0.12g BBs plastic inner barrel, so range and accuracy are shocking too. utterly useless for skirmishing, they're just kids toys.

obviously this is not Gindan ######. If you are exposed to the RS tokarev, then you will be able to tell the realism.
Like what I said, this one copies the Japanese GBB. Guess the pics are fairly enough to tell.
This company just seems pretty fresh, their 1911 even looks better than TM's, best I believe on the market.
http://blog.naver.com/PostThumbnailView.nhn?blogId=nitzz&logNo=140011867306&categoryNo=1&parentCategoryNo=

[adadqgg]

you seem to be misunderstanding how weak gindans are, they're about 75 fps with 0.12g BBs plastic inner barrel, so range and accuracy are shocking too. utterly useless for skirmishing, they're just kids toys.

They should have more fps as water guns; and safer too.

[my_plague_666]

obviously this is not Gindan ######. If you are exposed to the RS tokarev, then you will be able to tell the realism.
Like what I said, this one copies the Japanese GBB. Guess the pics are fairly enough to tell.
This company just seems pretty fresh, their 1911 even looks better than TM's, best I believe on the market.
http://blog.naver.com/PostThumbnailView.nhn?blogId=nitzz&logNo=140011867306&categoryNo=1&parentCategoryNo=

i know it's not gindan mate, i was explaining to isamu that a hand cocking springer is better as both a realistic wall hanger and a skirmish worthy weapon

[Joonwoo Kang]

hello. this is Joon woo kang posting from korea.
sorry about terrible grammar.

I see some people is misunderstanding about our airsoft.
yes. our power limit is *fruitcage* 0.2J. BUT it is not plastic inner barell. it has great brass inner barell.

the thing you must know is 'how it was got out?'

in 2009. one of our korean community member. GUNSMITH. think that it is too hard to buy a tokarev in korea.
because there was only one tokarev model gun. which is made by hudson. and it is cost like. 300$!

so he made petition to toy company name 'toystar'
the 'toystar' replied it is beyond their tech.

but in 2011. 12.01. the toystar made the announcement that they had succeed to make the Tokarev and they has a plan for the mass production.
and the cost is. about 25$!
what a good company1

so i want your guys too know it is (maybe) the first airsoft gun made buy petition.
thank you.
and again. sorry about terrible grammar.

Edited by Joonwoo Kang, 30 January 2012 - 03:35 AM.

[kojak]

Is this CO2 GBB at all relevant to your discussion: http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=37600

I don't know or care anything about Tokarevs, just happened to notice that it was listed today, then I saw this thread.

[eece2011]

Is this CO2 GBB at all relevant to your discussion: http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=37600

I don't know or care anything about Tokarevs, just happened to notice that it was listed today, then I saw this thread.

yep already knew that, and the crappiest and lousiest pellets gun maker CROSMAN will toss a new CO2 tokarev out soon, which is based on the baikal 656k.

[eece2011]

Wowwwww folks,what a *fruitcage* year of the red invasion. we have got a bunch of Tokarev's on the way.

KWA's GBB, toystar's springer, WG's GBB(.177), Crosman's NBB.

[Gunnman]

Why would they clone a GBB and turn it into a springer? Oh, it's a Hudson clone, that's why.

[renegadecow]

yes. our power limit is *fruitcage* 0.2J

I think I'd rather stick with a Gindan then, or gut a springer and put Gindan internals in it. At the very least they're double action.

[eece2011]

Why would they clone a GBB and turn it into a springer? Oh, it's a Hudson clone, that's why.

Hudson's turns out to be the most realistic, maybe due to the tech never seen korean manufacturers come up with some BUYABLE airsoft guns,even ACADEMY primarily makes springers.
Secondly, the 1911/tokarev both have something special on their chambers/projectile which I believe is completely different from some modern firearms, for instance the mag capacity is always limited to no more than 15 rounds.
hence sacrifice skirmishableness for realism is the only solution.

Edited by eece2011, 03 February 2012 - 05:31 AM.