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[aerodrew]

Now Freedom art has built yet another accucomp set that incorporates rails built into the front block. I personally don't think DET-S looks all that bad, but the lack of lower rail on these frames kind of kills it for me. The side-fastening screws do seem to detract from the design aesthetic, but it is probably set up like that on purpose to reinforce the frontend block.
DET-A on the other hand looks like a hideous monstrosity.


DET-S:












http://gun-freedom-art.com/hi45custum2/dts.html


DET-A:








http://gun-freedom-art.com/hi45custum2/dta.html

[junior]

The DET-A is pretty nice. I actually like the fact that they don't come with a lower rail.

So they want you to use a Detonics slide on a Hi-Capa...interesting. Especially for the ISPC guys, this should really speed up cycle time. It does seem like the gun will be a bit front heavy though...

[fal]

At last no ugly rails!!

[Utty]

Imagine adjusting the hop-up on the DET-A.

Other than that, I don't even know what to say to these. Detonics slide + hi-capa frame + huge chunk in front + huge RDS on top? I dunno man.

[Galaxy613]

The DET-A would be awesome if it was a little bit longer, with a katana-bayonet at the end, making it like 3-4 feet long. It'll be something like out of a anime, but I don't even think animes are as crazy as me...

[r.ocelot]

Kinda funny, as I JUST sent hkssr20det a PM about something like this last night.

[shinjinMC]

slightly off topic, but does anyone know what make of RDS is on those dets?
Im liking it

[r.ocelot]

Isn't it one of those old school AIMPOINTS?

[BigAl]

Looks like an old Tasco Pro Point.

Edit: Looking at the pictures again I've just gone right off it. I like my guns to be possible in real life and this isn't. Well it is but every time you fire a shot you'd hit the front sight lens with hot gasses out of the comp! Probably crack within a few shots.

Might be good with a rail running back from the front block to which a sight could be attached.

Edited by BigAl, 20 February 2008 - 05:29 PM.

[r.ocelot]

Looks like an old Tasco Pro Point.

Edit: Looking at the pictures again I've just gone right off it. I like my guns to be possible in real life and this isn't. Well it is but every time you fire a shot you'd hit the front sight lens with hot gasses out of the comp! Probably crack within a few shots.

Might be good with a rail running back from the front block to which a sight could be attached.

Aye, Pro Point's more like it.

It would be fine if the barrel is extended all the way to the front, but I'm not sure if there's enough room within the comp block for a 6/7" one to tilt up.

[junior]

On the DET A it appears that the screw holes on the side of the frame are not just for decoration, but can also be used to fasten a mount to the gun. Pretty nice idea, but then why would you add the rail to the top of the block?!

[the cleaner]

On the DET A it appears that the screw holes on the side of the frame are not just for decoration, but can also be used to fasten a mount to the gun. Pretty nice idea, but then why would you add the rail to the top of the block?!

to have full flexibility. .able to use any optics you want..whichever mount you want. . .the upper rail is ideal depending on the race holster/rig you're using too. . for instance. .if you have a really slim profile holster. .you probably don't want to use a frame mounted scope mount. . you'd rather just use the upper rail w/ rings.

I think the front heavy would be ideal in RS to help with recoil. . but for airsoft, it would be really noticeably front heavy. Having a cantilevered RDS would definitely help in balancing the comp.

here's my old Speedcomp II w/ a Tasco Pro Point.. old. . but still looks good despite it's size.

[Pinkfloyd]

If I may state the obvious...

Why do you add a hugeass barrel extension to a compact pistol?

It begs the question dont it?

[PlasticMag]

These are for IPSC-style shooting, not 'practical' use. They're for people who want to get the best shooting performance and looks out of their gun and then compete with them.

[krame]

It gives you the advantages of the longer inner barrel but you get a shorter slide which is lighter for faster cycle times.

[Pinkfloyd]

It gives you the advantages of the longer inner barrel but you get a shorter slide which is lighter for faster cycle times.

Why not shoot something like a SPP? It has a long barrel, short cycle time, large mag capacity, and can mount optics easily...

[dannyboy]

Poor detonics. Nice to have a bit of variation, but eesh.

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[junior]

Now that I think about it, this is pretty big money. Not only do you need to buy the freedom art set, but you also need a Hi-Capa, AND a Detonics to steal the slide and internals from.

Unless im missing something...

[the cleaner]

If I may state the obvious...

Why do you add a hugeass barrel extension to a compact pistol?

It begs the question dont it?

It only begs the question if you don't know a thing about shooting. .

do you shoot steel? or have tried to use a compact 1911 for competition?

there's something called muzzle climb, muzzle flash, and recoil. . .all things that can effect your target acquisition and accuracy

the advantages of using a compact slide on a std length frame is the short recoil/stroke .. the hugea$$ barrel extension/comp drastically reduces muzzle climb and also balances your IPSC/IDPA pistol (that would normally have a scope mount, optics, ext. mag, mag well, slide racker, etc). .weight is extremely important when handling recoil. .

ex. .ever shot a Thompson M1A1? Weighs a ton. . but very little recoil. .maybe a .22 or less

granted this is airsoft. . .but nothing wrong with emulating real steel. . that's what airsoft is about.

[the cleaner]

Why not shoot something like a SPP? It has a long barrel, short cycle time, large mag capacity, and can mount optics easily...

you can if you so wish. . for airsoft. .you're grouping isn't going to be far off from a GBB pistol. . not unless the pistol is upgraded beyond the capabilities of an SPP. . and it won't take much to surpass a SPP's performance.

SPPs weren't made for target/competition use. . .also, they're way bulkier than a fully equipt race gun.