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[happy.al]

http://classicairsoft.org/forum/viewtopic....=67&t=11050

Pics in the thread, basicly as title.

[snorkelman]

Nice to see If he can add a selector arm and a rear trigger hook to those parts then Im sure some of us will be dusting down the credit card

If he can do that AND put them out at a price that reflects the gas in mag compromise of the gun they're going to end up in then I suspect a lot more folks would be interested i.e. the ceiling price for a gas in mag solution isnt likely to be as high as folks would be willing to go for a full steel set of escort internals (where the end result can be used all year round)

[junior]

As you may or may not know, you need to be a member of that forum to be able to view the threads. Much like Arnies.

[snorkelman]

for benefit of those without an account on CA

[happy.al]

As you may or may not know, you need to be a member of that forum to be able to view the threads. Much like Arnies.

Sorry about that, though it was free to view, but obviously not.

Worth signing up to that forum if you have any interested in any type of gas gun.

[1st_shooter]

Sorry about that, though it was free to view, but obviously not.

Worth signing up to that forum if you have any interested in any type of gas gun.

I like! i think im gonna have to send him my mp5 to whip up some much needed steel parts so it actualy works again!

[The_Boy_Swift]

So like, how much?

[pedro041484]

finally!

[my_plague_666]

nice, but i cant see this being cheap. probably just as expensive to get him to convert an existing AK to escort once you've bought the GHK AK, all the upgrades and a full set of mags and at the end of the day the escort system will still work better

[Horse]

The escort system might "work better" - but is also much fugglier with external gas.

[my_plague_666]

... a tiny hose that disappears up your sleeve and is thus barely visible and unobtrusive?
a small sacrifice IMO for AEG mag compatibility, no cool down, all year reliability, lower maintenance etc

[Panzergraf]

Well, as much as I love my hoses, if I were to make a "Derkistani tribesman" loadout, I probably wouldn't have any place to keep a CO2 or HPA bottle and rig, and I wouldn't need more than 2-3 magazines anyway.
This is why the GHK has some appeal to me; events that are more geared towards roleplaying elements than triggertime.

If, however, I wanted to do a Russian loadout, then yes, I'd save up for a Daytonagun AK-74 of some kind.

[-Clover-]

So how exactly does one go about buying these new parts? I'm sorry if there's something I missed, but I honestly have no idea.

[Horsem4n]

you just got to get in contact with daytonagun and tell him what you want to buy, then paypal the cash.

[happy.al]

http://classicairsoft.org/forum/viewtopic....=67&t=11050

Pics in the thread, basicly as title.

Justin has updated his thread to give prices.

US$175 for the set, that includes postage and paypal fees.

Got to say that is much less that I was expecting, might get one of these gun now.

[snorkelman]

aye at 175 its a no brainer

now if he'd do the trigger, rear trigger hook. selector lever and hammer interupt to complete the set that would be stupendous With full steel internals Id even fold my own receiver flat and build an AKSU to proper spec then

[happy.al]

aye at 175 its a no brainer

now if he'd do the trigger, rear trigger hook. selector lever and hammer interupt to complete the set that would be stupendous With full steel internals Id even fold my own receiver flat and build an AKSU to proper spec then

LOL, I hope it doesn't need all those doing to make it work right, I hope??? Would it be useable if you installed Justins parts, or does it still need more to be done?

[snorkelman]

basically those 4 complete it - though only two of them can be said to have any real issues

the inner selectors have been known to break at point where the bolt for the outer selector gets screwed onto it

the original rear trigger hook can be undersized and exacerbate probs with the selector

so those two really could do with uprated versions

As for the other two

original interupter its fine at the moment but:

1 its a weeny little part that I doubt would be more hassle to remake than the valve knocker is

2 its currently searing against another cast zinc part (hammer) and tripped by the zinc bolt carrier. If those two parts are now steel it might well become weakest link and start to suffer additional wear

Nothing really wrong with the original trigger but if all the rest of the bits end up steel then why not

If he can do the parts he has made for 175 (including CNC'ing the big chunky awkward bolt) then I'd suspect the other 4 small ones might cost another 75? I'd certainly go 250 to 300 to get the reassurance of a 'full set'

Edited by snorkelman, 03 March 2009 - 04:45 PM.

[Horse]

I think it is taking an "affordable" GBB gun and making it dangerously close in price to his own Daytona AK's which are beastly expensive. I am ok with speding $600 for an airsoft gun, but at $1000+ I can think of a lot of real guns I would own instead.

[snorkelman]

The GHK/DG combo does have couple of neat points over the Escortised gun - longer bolt travel more realistic feel to the firing mech, stripping of the gun etc

If both were same price (or you're only into buying one) Id def buy the escortised one first.

Got money for both and a place where you can make use of a gas in mag gun buy the GHK/DG too

Hate the prospect of external rig but are dead set on a gas blowback AK whatever the skirmish restrictions it'll impose then Id consider

650 dolar spend on a more or less 'all steel where it matters' GIM setup (say 300 for the bits I outlined in steel plus 250 GHK kit and 100 VFC AK)

prefferable to

525 on a mixture of zinc and steel that could still have a few weak points (175 DG kit plus 250 GHK kit and 100 VFC)

or

350 for the (currently) cant rely on it at all stock version. If folks DO have the time to wait for that then thats a different story (and if GHK can wring some reliability out of their boltcarrier then its going to be beneficial from a ROF/Gas consumption POV over a heavy steel one)

Personally I just cant be arsed waiting anymore - The RS 56-1 I have here I'll probably go down the escortised route on whereas the other half a dozen or so VFC/Dboys designs I want converted I'd most likely opt for the GIM approach on those and go with as many steel parts in each as Justin is willing to churn out for them.