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[Slayer750]

I've been waiting for this kit for a long time, and now it looks like it is almost here. My guess is that it is the production version of the Iron Airsoft/Beta Project prototype that we saw pics of months ago.

[hwagan]

Heh, I like the sheriff at the end of the video. Nice to see LE personnel advocating fun, safe airsofting.


Still, besides the point - I'd be a lot more interested in this as a whole gun. For anyone with a WA based GBBR, it's going to be awfully upsetting to have to buy an AEG only to throw away the expensive parts of it and shell out for a conversion kit to replace them with.

Don't get me wrong, it's a brilliant idea - AEG users can have the gas parts for the summer, AEG bits for the winter, vice-versa. For me though, I own a bunch of G&P WA mags, and I'd quite like a GBBR Masada - But I really hope they release the built gun in stock form to save having to buy the AEG version first.

[WhiteHawksan]

that long masada in GBB form would be lovelly I must say.

[Slayer750]

I'm sure that, if PTS doesn't make release a "built" version of the GBB Masada, companies/retailers will make them as custom kits to sell.

[hwagan]

I seriously hope so! There's a *fruitcage*ton of different WE based GBBR's that can use the Stanag mags, so it'd be nice to have a different weapon I could use my WA mags in.

[RacingManiac]

The kit seems to include a lot of stuff, barrel, lower, and the bolt bits, can't imagine it'll be cheap...

[rusTORK]

GBB Masada - very nice. But i think we are stuck at 5.56. Maybe make new step to 7.62. I mean 7.62x51 recievers. VFC with their HK417D look VERY interesting. Because it's look like they actually developed new reciever (maybe just lower) and magazine!

[Chevieblazer]

Apart from the 417 being an AEG... I guess, for 7.62x51 you'll have to wait for WE to stop making useless ###### and pick up on the Scar H again...

This does look most interesting for all those who have Masadas and WAs...and release date 4 to 6 weeks?!? That's what I wanted to hear!!!

[hitmanNo2]

The 417 is GBB as well.

[Deadmeat]

I've always said that I wanted a EBB kit for my Masada but I never thought about a GBB kit!!! I might actually give this a try!!??

I just wonder what these mags are like for gas retention and ammo count??

[Aitch]

I'm in awe that the GBBR took off, I watched gladly when TM AEGs wiped what they call "classic" guns off the face of the airsoft planet, if classic means useless leaky POS that goes through seals like cull then they're classic alright they were ###### back then and nothing with the newer releases makes me think any different

[hwagan]

I'm in awe that the GBBR took off, I watched gladly when TM AEGs wiped what they call "classic" guns off the face of the airsoft planet, if classic means useless leaky POS that goes through seals like cull then they're classic alright they were ###### back then and nothing with the newer releases makes me think any different

Owned a GBBR recently? My G&P/WA is 12,000 or so rounds in, in stock form, without a failure yet. Mags are gas tight and have never leaked, it outranges everything with a .28 by a considerable amount, and makes everyone who uses it feel a little bit sad that they're still rocking a sewing machine


*edit* Also, wear a coat over a chest rig with the mags, and it works just as well in winter as it does in the comfort of my room!

Edited by hwagan, 20 January 2012 - 11:37 AM.

[fiddlesticks4220]

Owned a GBBR recently? My G&P/WA is 12,000 or so rounds in, in stock form, without a failure yet. Mags are gas tight and have never leaked, it outranges everything with a .28 by a considerable amount, and makes everyone who uses it feel a little bit sad that they're still rocking a sewing machine


*edit* Also, wear a coat over a chest rig with the mags, and it works just as well in winter as it does in the comfort of my room!

Have to agree, have a stock WOC X passing 7K or so rounds and not an issue yet.

[hitmanNo2]

I just wonder what these mags are like for gas retention and ammo count??

It uses any WA magazine so you have lots of choices.

[Hokum]

Masada SPR! Finally!

[hwagan]

Have to agree, have a stock WOC X passing 7K or so rounds and not an issue yet.

That's even more impressive, I didn't realise the WOC X series would go that long without needing the steel bits. Picking up a WOC X 607 soon, so that's very good news indeed


Still - GBBR's can compete with AEG's, you just need to know what you're getting into, and be willing to spend the money. Half the GBBR issues I see seem to be 'Oh, my 5ku 3 round burst kit doesn't work with my RA-Tech bolt in my G&P receiver'.. Mixing and matching parts causes a world of tolerance issues in GBB's and AEG's alike.

When it comes to GBBR's, all you need is the willingness to part with the dosh for a decent base, a reasonable knowledge of mechanical engineering, and the acceptance of the fact you'll need to maintain it better and replace parts occasionally - Which is a hell of a lot easier than repairing/maintaining an AEG's gearbox.


I used to be an avid GBBR hater, until I actually bought one and realised all the fuss was over nothing. Cooldown is preventable, and it's not at all difficult to get a GBBR to perform as well as an AEG.

[RacingManiac]

Owned a GBBR recently? My G&P/WA is 12,000 or so rounds in, in stock form, without a failure yet. Mags are gas tight and have never leaked, it outranges everything with a .28 by a considerable amount, and makes everyone who uses it feel a little bit sad that they're still rocking a sewing machine


*edit* Also, wear a coat over a chest rig with the mags, and it works just as well in winter as it does in the comfort of my room!

What mag do you use that they don't leak?
Mechanically my GBBR seems to be holding up no issue, but the darn mags are the weakest part...

[hwagan]

What mag do you use that they don't leak?
Mechanically my GBBR seems to be holding up no issue, but the darn mags are the weakest part...

G&P Pmags - Really really pleased with them. Whilst they're a tad on the heavy side, they look convincingly enough like polymer and the finish on them is very, very tough.

[Deadmeat]

Can I presume these gas mags are 50 round max? Can you get gas Pmags that hold more rounds?

[hwagan]

I've heard negative reviews of the Beta Project Pmags, which I believe held 50 - Kingdong had some with his WOC and had a few issues, including leaks.


G&P Pmags are 39 rounds, but they're gas tight and rock solid. I carry a combat load of 6 39 round mags, and I used to use 8 120 round mags in an AEG. I've never once felt outgunned or lacking ammunition. When it comes to suppression, the noise adds a bit of a psychological factor 'n all - I've found a shot from a GBBR at a surface that makes a noise every couple of seconds keeps heads down as effectively as a midcap dump from an AEG.