Slayer750 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LTDUOt_DdQ&feature=g-u-u&context=G24ff1c6FUAAAAAAAaAA I've been waiting for this kit for a long time, and now it looks like it is almost here. My guess is that it is the production version of the Iron Airsoft/Beta Project prototype that we saw pics of months ago. Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Heh, I like the sheriff at the end of the video. Nice to see LE personnel advocating fun, safe airsofting. Still, besides the point - I'd be a lot more interested in this as a whole gun. For anyone with a WA based GBBR, it's going to be awfully upsetting to have to buy an AEG only to throw away the expensive parts of it and shell out for a conversion kit to replace them with. Don't get me wrong, it's a brilliant idea - AEG users can have the gas parts for the summer, AEG bits for the winter, vice-versa. For me though, I own a bunch of G&P WA mags, and I'd quite like a GBBR Masada - But I really hope they release the built gun in stock form to save having to buy the AEG version first. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 that long masada in GBB form would be lovelly I must say. Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer750 Posted January 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I'm sure that, if PTS doesn't make release a "built" version of the GBB Masada, companies/retailers will make them as custom kits to sell. Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I seriously hope so! There's a *fruitcage*ton of different WE based GBBR's that can use the Stanag mags, so it'd be nice to have a different weapon I could use my WA mags in. Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 The kit seems to include a lot of stuff, barrel, lower, and the bolt bits, can't imagine it'll be cheap... Link to post Share on other sites
rusTORK Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 GBB Masada - very nice. But i think we are stuck at 5.56. Maybe make new step to 7.62. I mean 7.62x51 recievers. VFC with their HK417D look VERY interesting. Because it's look like they actually developed new reciever (maybe just lower) and magazine! Link to post Share on other sites
Chevieblazer Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Apart from the 417 being an AEG... I guess, for 7.62x51 you'll have to wait for WE to stop making useless ###### and pick up on the Scar H again... This does look most interesting for all those who have Masadas and WAs...and release date 4 to 6 weeks?!? That's what I wanted to hear!!! Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 The 417 is GBB as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Deadmeat Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I've always said that I wanted a EBB kit for my Masada but I never thought about a GBB kit!!! I might actually give this a try!!?? I just wonder what these mags are like for gas retention and ammo count?? Link to post Share on other sites
Aitch Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I'm in awe that the GBBR took off, I watched gladly when TM AEGs wiped what they call "classic" guns off the face of the airsoft planet, if classic means useless leaky POS that goes through seals like cull then they're classic alright they were ###### back then and nothing with the newer releases makes me think any different Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I'm in awe that the GBBR took off, I watched gladly when TM AEGs wiped what they call "classic" guns off the face of the airsoft planet, if classic means useless leaky POS that goes through seals like cull then they're classic alright they were ###### back then and nothing with the newer releases makes me think any different Owned a GBBR recently? My G&P/WA is 12,000 or so rounds in, in stock form, without a failure yet. Mags are gas tight and have never leaked, it outranges everything with a .28 by a considerable amount, and makes everyone who uses it feel a little bit sad that they're still rocking a sewing machine *edit* Also, wear a coat over a chest rig with the mags, and it works just as well in winter as it does in the comfort of my room! Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlesticks4220 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Owned a GBBR recently? My G&P/WA is 12,000 or so rounds in, in stock form, without a failure yet. Mags are gas tight and have never leaked, it outranges everything with a .28 by a considerable amount, and makes everyone who uses it feel a little bit sad that they're still rocking a sewing machine *edit* Also, wear a coat over a chest rig with the mags, and it works just as well in winter as it does in the comfort of my room! Have to agree, have a stock WOC X passing 7K or so rounds and not an issue yet. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I just wonder what these mags are like for gas retention and ammo count?? It uses any WA magazine so you have lots of choices. Link to post Share on other sites
Hokum Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Masada SPR! Finally! Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Have to agree, have a stock WOC X passing 7K or so rounds and not an issue yet. That's even more impressive, I didn't realise the WOC X series would go that long without needing the steel bits. Picking up a WOC X 607 soon, so that's very good news indeed Still - GBBR's can compete with AEG's, you just need to know what you're getting into, and be willing to spend the money. Half the GBBR issues I see seem to be 'Oh, my 5ku 3 round burst kit doesn't work with my RA-Tech bolt in my G&P receiver'.. Mixing and matching parts causes a world of tolerance issues in GBB's and AEG's alike. When it comes to GBBR's, all you need is the willingness to part with the dosh for a decent base, a reasonable knowledge of mechanical engineering, and the acceptance of the fact you'll need to maintain it better and replace parts occasionally - Which is a hell of a lot easier than repairing/maintaining an AEG's gearbox. I used to be an avid GBBR hater, until I actually bought one and realised all the fuss was over nothing. Cooldown is preventable, and it's not at all difficult to get a GBBR to perform as well as an AEG. Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Owned a GBBR recently? My G&P/WA is 12,000 or so rounds in, in stock form, without a failure yet. Mags are gas tight and have never leaked, it outranges everything with a .28 by a considerable amount, and makes everyone who uses it feel a little bit sad that they're still rocking a sewing machine *edit* Also, wear a coat over a chest rig with the mags, and it works just as well in winter as it does in the comfort of my room! What mag do you use that they don't leak? Mechanically my GBBR seems to be holding up no issue, but the darn mags are the weakest part... Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 What mag do you use that they don't leak? Mechanically my GBBR seems to be holding up no issue, but the darn mags are the weakest part... G&P Pmags - Really really pleased with them. Whilst they're a tad on the heavy side, they look convincingly enough like polymer and the finish on them is very, very tough. Link to post Share on other sites
Deadmeat Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Can I presume these gas mags are 50 round max? Can you get gas Pmags that hold more rounds? Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I've heard negative reviews of the Beta Project Pmags, which I believe held 50 - Kingdong had some with his WOC and had a few issues, including leaks. G&P Pmags are 39 rounds, but they're gas tight and rock solid. I carry a combat load of 6 39 round mags, and I used to use 8 120 round mags in an AEG. I've never once felt outgunned or lacking ammunition. When it comes to suppression, the noise adds a bit of a psychological factor 'n all - I've found a shot from a GBBR at a surface that makes a noise every couple of seconds keeps heads down as effectively as a midcap dump from an AEG. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I use BP Pmags and found them to be excellent in WOCs and they hold 30 rds. Link to post Share on other sites
kingdong Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I had bought 6 of those Beta Project Pmags, they all leaked, re-sealed and still leaked, I also noticed a lack of power and a lack of spare parts... Lame. Im glad to hear the Masada GBBR conversion takes WA mags Im sure Ehobby will eventually have the pre-built GBBR Masada at some point. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Weird. I have a few and found them to be on par with my Pro-wins and WAs. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 The only problem I've ever really had with the WA system is leaking mags. I've got 7 of the standard type G&Ps and they all leak like *Ubarflock*, I've never been able to field my GBBRs. I'll be buying some of the G&P PMAGs very shortly, because lower capacity I can work around. Mags that hold no propellant are 100% useless. Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamer777 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I known im killing my own gerbal with this, but if i were get this to an newbiew that would clean, lube, and love his rifles proubly weekly, and wouldnt use it maybe no more then 3 times a month? Link to post Share on other sites
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