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[WhiteHawksan]

you sir, clearly have no idea of our fireknife.

[renegadecow]

Using pistols as sniper weapons isn't milsim.

Now, myself dressed up as a prospector with a Ruger Super Blackhawk picking out targets 60m away, THAT isn't milsim. But it sure is fun.

[wolfgeorge]

It's an interesting idea... I production drop in bucking that will increase range...
I don't think it will better than a tuned R-hop but it's nice to have it in a pistol....

Many people can't fit properly the R hop and may be the answer to them!

P.S. I have one R-hop barrel from HS5

Wolf

[kojak]

Using pistols as sniper weapons isn't milsim.

And a "sniper" M4 with a paintball hose is?

I find this kind of funny because HS5 is selling(last time I check, which was a few weeks ago) a pack of R-hop contact patches bag of tubing scraps that is almost sure to have one compatible for any barrel.

Fixed that for ya.

[adadqgg]

Using pistols as sniper weapons isn't milsim.

This is not only for pistols, though.

Fixed that for ya.

Well then you go find this "tubing scraps" and sell it to others for cheap.

Edited by adadqgg, 20 April 2012 - 08:47 PM.

[coolurjets]

you sir, clearly have no idea of our fireknife.

If he played at bristol courthouse I probably do. Well, not that he stuck in the memory I probably dropped him and went hunting my next target.

Warning: This post contains silly Hubris.

Looking forward to seeing some more independant REAPS reviews.

Edited by coolurjets, 20 April 2012 - 11:40 PM.

[sniperelite7]

And a "sniper" M4 with a paintball hose is?

It was sarcasm My local field has been obsessed with enforcing "milsim" dress codes and making sure that the "true" form of airsoft. That is milsim, is "protected".

Also, not a paintball hose. A high pressure air hose. HPA has been used in hoses looooong before paintball

[intinerious]

There are no words for the amount of elitist sentiment in this post. Dear god man.

'Coolurjets'

Can't tell if you're being serious....

Fireknife basically said that he pwns people with pistols, and when he's bored he pwns more experienced/rich people with pistols....how is that elitist? O_o

As for the R-Hop..if it's just scraps of tubing then more power to HS5 for sprinkling pixie dust on it to make it work it's magic.....What's all this hate on the R-Hop for anyway.

[Maekl]

People are too incompetent to install an R-hop, and then cry about it. Just leave it to the experts.

Edited by Maekl, 22 April 2012 - 10:43 AM.

[wolfgeorge]

Not everyone is an expert or plays airsoft for a decade!
There are new players around... And everyone is just keep learning myself included!


Wolf

[Bareknuckle]

ebairsoft.com seems to be out of the REAPS pistol buckings, since the product has disappeared from their website as far as I can tell.

I'm a bit confused about which one I should get if I wanted to put it in a Marui-style M1911. There were two types listed, and one said it was for the VSR-10/WE-tech open chambers and the other for Marui/KJW/WE pistols.

http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?search_From=searchItem&item=APLUS-DHP-002&search=searchItem&rs=aplus&catid=&cat=

http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?search_From=searchItem&item=APLUS-DHP-001&search=searchItem&rs=aplus&catid=&cat=

[intinerious]

Not everyone is an expert or plays airsoft for a decade!
There are new players around... And everyone is just keep learning myself included!


Wolf

I've been playing (well, more like tinkering with AEGs/GBBs than actually going out to skirmish...Uni student = no life ) for roughly 3-4 years and the R-Hop seems incredibly easy to install without the need to get fancy tools and stuff... Plus HS5 made a semi- drop in kit; the only things you might need to do is:

- file the outer (or inner, but outer's easier) surface's thickness to match the barrel profile
- cut it correctly to the right length + superglue it to the barrel
- file away the nub on a hard bucking and place the bucking sleeve over the barrel

It's not hard to install the R-Hop basically; don't let the fact that it's not entirely 100% drop in fit let it dissuade you from trying


Bareknuckle, the two types listed is because the VSR and WE barrel profile have that bit that forms a 'hole' where the nub sits (if you take a look at the barrel window) so it's like an AEG. The TM GBB Pistol style barrels have an 'open' window where it's not enclosed on all 4 sides. As a result the VSR/WE bucking has a shorter contact nub that fits into the 'closed' window whereas the TM/KJ GBB Pistol bucking is longer because of the 'open' window.


Taking into account of what HS5 said about the design of the REAPS I'm wondering whether you can get the pistol bucking; file a bigger curvature into the contact area of the bucking to see if you can get better consistency from it's stock design. Of course you'll need a pretty steady hand plus making sure the area's pretty much symmetrical to make sure you don't have shots veering off to one side if you filed it at an angle

[FireKnife]

There are no words for the amount of elitist sentiment in this post. Dear god man.

'Coolurjets'


If he played at bristol courthouse I probably do. Well, not that he stuck in the memory I probably dropped him and went hunting my next target.

Hi, welcome to the forums and to my world of insanity. And yes i have played Bristol Courthouse, though that was a short while ago and you are?

Fireknife basically said that he pwns people with pistols, and when he's bored he pwns more experienced/rich people with pistols....how is that elitist? O_o

I'm not sure . But it is true, best to pick of those with experience as it is more likely to cause discord than picking off a newer player, mostly as new player look up to older players at my local field, however the older ones just see the new players as cannon fodder, harsh but true.

'FireKnife'

[kojak]

People are too incompetent to install an R-hop, and then cry about it. Just leave it to the experts.

Never said it didn't work, just find giving bits of off-the-shelf tubing a brand name and selling it as "the ultimate hopup system on the market today" absurd. You're right about one thing though--it's much more of a modification than a product.

...
Well then you go find this "tubing scraps" and sell it to others for cheap.

I wouldn't bother, I'd just let people know where to get their own. If I were to sell anything, it would be custom extruded in useful dimensions and durometer ratings like the ones I'm currently testing.

Back on topic, what does the inside of the A+ Studio AEG bucking look like? I ordered some just to try out the shabby looking knockoff Firefly nubs, but there was no pic of the contact patch.

[Reppyboyo]

Bareknuckle, the two types listed is because the VSR and WE barrel profile have that bit that forms a 'hole' where the nub sits (if you take a look at the barrel window) so it's like an AEG. The TM GBB Pistol style barrels have an 'open' window where it's not enclosed on all 4 sides. As a result the VSR/WE bucking has a shorter contact nub that fits into the 'closed' window whereas the TM/KJ GBB Pistol bucking is longer because of the 'open' window.

Bit confused by this.
All my WE GBBR's have an 'open' type end, exactly the same as any TM pistol.

AFAIK either of these bucking should fit fine.

[coolurjets]

Hi, welcome to the forums and to my world of insanity. And yes i have played Bristol Courthouse, though that was a short while ago and you are?

I'm not new to the forum, I just read more than I post. Would have been Feb 2008 - September 2009 at the court house.

[Bareknuckle]

Yeah, the product segmentation between VSR-10 buckings and Marui pistol buckings with the REAPS seems confusing. Typically, it seems that buckings are advertised for use in both the M1911 and the VSR-10 concurrently. I was under the impression that they were completely identical and interchangeable. Also, I wonder what pistols the general "Marui/KJW/WE" bucking fits, considering each manufacturer listed uses a variety of hop-up units.

Edited by Bareknuckle, 24 April 2012 - 05:52 AM.

[FireKnife]

Would have been Feb 2008 - September 2009 at the court house.

Might have seen us then, back when i was just starting my pistols only.

'FireKnife'

[Maekl]

Never said it didn't work, just find giving bits of off-the-shelf tubing a brand name and selling it as "the ultimate hopup system on the market today" absurd.

He didnt just pick up the first tubing he found, he actually tested out different materials for several months, and spent almost a year perfecting and experimenting with the system before actually releasing the diy product into the market. Considering what kind of performance you get from such a tiny piece of rubber for a cost of a bucking, there is nothing absurd about that. Yes, its a piece of a hose but so what, it works and he deservers the credit for it. People have tried to copy it, including this REAPS thing, but they pretty much have all failed miserably. Good luck by all means if thats what you're trying to do too, but let me tell you, its not going to be as easy as you may think.

[intinerious]

Bit confused by this.
All my WE GBBR's have an 'open' type end, exactly the same as any TM pistol.

AFAIK either of these bucking should fit fine.

Yeah, the product segmentation between VSR-10 buckings and Marui pistol buckings with the REAPS seems confusing. Typically, it seems that buckings are advertised for use in both the M1911 and the VSR-10 concurrently. I was under the impression that they were completely identical and interchangeable. Also, I wonder what pistols the general "Marui/KJW/WE" bucking fits, considering each manufacturer listed uses a variety of hop-up units.

Sorry Reppyboyo! I got confused with my RATECH tightbore barrel which has that 'closed' type window, hence what I wrote before. Regardless, from what I've read on the retailer sites the only difference between the 2 is that the one marketed for the TM/KJWs have a longer contact patch area compared with the VSR/WE one.

Considering the above, Bareknuckle I think that answers your question. In general the VSR/TM Pistol type buckings are interchangeable because the contact nub on the buckings don't have a length long enough to be affected by whether the barrel has a 'open' or 'closed' hop up window. Since this REAPS thing elongates the nub the barrel window will affect whether the contact patch can sit well inside the hop window of the barrel.

Never said it didn't work, just find giving bits of off-the-shelf tubing a brand name and selling it as "the ultimate hopup system on the market today" absurd. You're right about one thing though--it's much more of a modification than a product.

Hmmm I don't think HS5 ever said it was "the ultimate hopup system on the market today"...though he said the R-Hop has 'legendary performance' :

https://sites.google.com/site/hsarmory/home/products-and-services

Considering that many reported an increase in performance with the R-Hop installed I guess one should give him some marketing leeway with his 'legendary performance' blurb

He's also been critiquing people for not taking his ideas further and do some innovation themselves; with that in mind I find that he's humble enough to not call the R-Hop the
"the ultimate hopup system on the market today" (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though; I can't say I've browsed through all his posts on ASM regarding the R-Hop).

He's also said that the money made off the R-Hop (forgot where I read this) is not technically going into his wallet for 'personal use'; he's doing further R&D with other airsoft stuff so the money's actually going towards those projects. Considering that he experimented with the different types of material to find the suitable tubing for the R-Hop (and the other stuff's he's developing) I'd say I'm fine with paying a few dollars for a few pieces of tubing if he's gonna continue to churn out innovative stuff for airsoft. You can always argue otherwise but evidence shows that he's got other airsoft projects at hand so I feel inclined to believe what he says

He didnt just pick up the first tubing he found, he actually tested out different materials for several months, and spent almost a year perfecting and experimenting with the system before actually releasing the diy product into the market. Considering what kind of performance you get from such a tiny piece of rubber for a cost of a bucking, there is nothing absurd about that. Yes, its a piece of a hose but so what, it works and he deservers the credit for it. People have tried to copy it, including this REAPS thing, but they pretty much have all failed miserably. Good luck by all means if thats what you're trying to do too, but let me tell you, its not going to be as easy as you may think.

Hm Maekl I doubt Asian-Future-Weapons-Guy's company copied the R-Hop considering there are many design differences that HS5 already listed out on ASM But nonetheless I agree