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#1 bjorn

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 08:48 AM

As many airsoft players know Lonex Airsoft is a high quality airsoft parts maker in Taiwan. Until now they have only been making tuneup or upgrade parts for mainly AEG-s. their products are up on par with the best there are. They are innovative and they don´t let you down on build quality or materials.

A few days ago I received a test sample Lonex M4 AEG, which I believe to be the first in Europe.
Lonex Airsoft Official webpage http://www.lonex.com.tw/en/index.html

Commercial pics of the M4:
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Out of the box

The AEG feels good in your hands. The texture of metal and plastic fibre is nice, can not compare to your regular china AEG-s.
Plastic handguard and M4 stock are high quality and sturdy. There is a little play in the handguard as usual. A bit more then I would have expected. A RIS or RAS will fix that though. No play what so ever between upper and lower receiver. Body pins don´t fall out, the have securing clips like the real deal.

Stock tube attachement has got a new design - they don´t use a bolt to screw into the gearbox. The stock tube screws on to the lower receiver and is fixed by the stock tube ring. This pretty much means that you can extract the gearbox without taking off the stock. I don´t know if it will fare well for the spring guide though, since it isn´t fixed anymore by the bolt that goes through the stock tube.

The upper receiver slides forward with little effort revealing a standard plastic M4 hopup chamber that is snug and fits together definietly better than your average M4 hop. Brass stock inner barrel as usual.

Internals reveal a 8mm Lonex gearbox with superb build quality for a stock AEG. Reinforced gearbox is something new that I haven´t seen before (expect KWA which is not a standard V2 anyways). The only modification needed is either use a Lonex tapet plate with cutouts or use your own tapet plate after 5 mins of filing. All other parts are compatible Ver.2 gearbox parts. This is good news for people using their Armalites in colder climates. In minus Celsius weather I have seen all types of Ver.2 gearbox shells brake (KA, G&P, all china, Systema etc.) A regular ver.2 box has 2mm thickned in the front cylinder area where they brake. Lonex has added 1mm of material which makes a big difference. I tested the Lonex ver.2 gearbox in -17 celsius that can be seen here:



Shooting the rifle?
This is where you get a good grin if you haven´t already.
The sound of this ver.2 gearbox is smooth, which tells a lot about gearbox build quality. Shimming is spot on and the motor is adjusted correctly.
Chrono with 0.2g bb-s show 122-124m/s with hopup off. Stability is good. Outdoor testing show that with 0.28g bb-s hitting a torso sized target is no problem at 50 meters. The shot group is tight, but mostly I have to admit that this M4 hopup chamber does its job very well! I usually do not even think about playing with regular Armalite, but this AEG has changed my mind. With 7.4V lipo battery the semi was crispy enough and full auto gave 13-14 RPS. At 11.1V it hit 18RPS.

First problem occours when testing the rifle with different magazines. It comes stock with one Lonex M4 Flashmag which fits well. All other M4 mags that I tested fit in, but want to come out really easy. A little bit of playing with different mags and most of them come out with pulling down or to the sides. Problem is the magazine well, which is a bit too wide (large). I will let Lonex know about this and I am sure they will remedy the problem before large scale production.

Selling price is still up in the air, but expected to sell in Europe under 300 eur. (same level as King Arms, G&P and other Hong Kong companies). Whilst the Lonex M4 AEG probably can´t compare pricewise to China AEG-s, but then again its quality is in my opinion way higher than HK based products.

Pros:
Good quality materials used all around
Great internals for a stock AEG
Very nice accuracy and range for a M4 AEG!

Cons:
Needs some tweaking. Wobbly handguard.
Main problem is the mag compatibility which needs some more research and development. (Will let you know about the progress).


Conclusion
I haven´t been this excited about an airsoft M4 for a long type. This isn´t your standard "copy of Marui another company M4". This one actually has some innovation and new quality in it.

NB! I am not affiliated with Lonex Airsoft. I have tried their products and absolutely love them.






A short videoreview about the rifle will be here as soon as it is uploaded to Youtube. Stay tuned folks!


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Posted 21 June 2012 - 11:21 AM

Can´t edit my first post anymore so...

Here is the video I promised:


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Posted 21 June 2012 - 04:45 PM

May be off topic but I got a sample from them last month. Here's the visual comparison between the Lonex & WE AEG M4

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 06:01 PM

Can you confirm the mag not fitting problem? Or is it an isolated case with mine?


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Posted 21 June 2012 - 06:20 PM

Unlike KWA aeg; Lonex is actually lipo-reliable(Not just ready).

According to picture: Lonex sling mount is tight, WE is loose; Lonex barrel is thick, WE is thin.
Therefore...lonex wins? lol

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 07:09 PM

"beauty is in the eyes of the beholder"

overall exterior wise, Lonex had put more detail and quality into it. I haven't gotten into the internals comparison yet.
However, I really liked the locking bolt catch and bolt return feature on the WE AEG M4.

I have not encounter any magazine compatibility issue with the Lonex. It should fit all TM compatible AEG mags

Edited by Hanger, 21 June 2012 - 07:15 PM.


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Posted 21 June 2012 - 07:33 PM

Lonex is a winner in my eyes. Quality of parts is superb!
Locking bolt and return feature is on my test sample Lonex aeg as well, and working perfectly!

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 02:11 AM

I fail to see innovation, looks like a run of the mill m4 with upgraded internals. I think this belongs in the user review section considering its not so much an announcement as it is your thoughts and findings of Lonex's aeg.
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:50 PM

It will belong in the Review section as soon as the rifle itself is released.
About innovation - the reinforced gearbox shell and a new stock tube attachement is already innovation enough.
Over here I see tens of gearboxes break during a few winter games. This might be a good solution to that. That is innovation in my eyes.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 01:09 PM

How exactly is the gearbox shell reinforced? From the photos it all looks pretty conventional as far as a V2 gearbox goes.

Well, I cant see a customs person really going "Oh dear, that looks like a banana mag and its not an AK mag... CALL THE UMAREX HOTLINE!"...somewhere in germany, a lawyer picks up a red flashing plastic phone, V1s are launched at your house...etc etc


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Posted 25 June 2012 - 01:33 PM

How exactly is the gearbox shell reinforced? From the photos it all looks pretty conventional as far as a V2 gearbox goes.


Unless my eyes* deceives me, that would appear to be a zinc-passivated gearbox shell- meaning it's a steel gearbox shell.....Can anyone confirm this, or is it just a cheap coating on an ordinary alloy V2 box?

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 06:10 PM

For those who have actually read the info in the first post and watched the Youtube video will know that the gearbox has internal reinforcements in the fron cylinder window area. Basically they added 1mm of metal to each side, that now requires a filed tapet plate or Lonex tapet plate.

Standard gearbox: 2mm thickness
Lonex gearbox: 3mm thickness

About the material - don´t think it is steel, just looks that way. Actual gearbox in the M4 was black painted, not stainless.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 06:21 PM

So to fit a normal tappet plate you'd have to file it and make it narrower to fit the new shell? I did read the first post but it wasn't entirely clear where the extra material was, it does sound similar to what Modify did with their Torus shells though which have cutouts in the tappet plate to allow room for extra material at the front.

Also to be picky..

The texture of metal and plastic fibre is nice

It's called fibre-reinforced plastic, not plastic fibre or nylon fibre as people often call it, you use those to make woven fabrics, not solid injection moulded parts.

Well, I cant see a customs person really going "Oh dear, that looks like a banana mag and its not an AK mag... CALL THE UMAREX HOTLINE!"...somewhere in germany, a lawyer picks up a red flashing plastic phone, V1s are launched at your house...etc etc


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Posted 25 June 2012 - 08:26 PM

I am corrected.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 03:56 AM

It will belong in the Review section as soon as the rifle itself is released.
About innovation - the reinforced gearbox shell and a new stock tube attachement is already innovation enough.
Over here I see tens of gearboxes break during a few winter games. This might be a good solution to that. That is innovation in my eyes.

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Thats a stretch considering its all stuff thats been done before. A reinforced gearbox is not news and has been done as mentioned with the modify Torus gb. I will give you the stock tube, but i think this can also be seen as a week point unless its compatible with aftermarket parts.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 06:46 AM

Thats a stretch considering its all stuff thats been done before. A reinforced gearbox is not news and has been done as mentioned with the modify Torus gb. I will give you the stock tube, but i think this can also be seen as a week point unless its compatible with aftermarket parts.

But Lonex is one of the best aftermarket parts source out there.

Although their motor is really the only one that is really must-have over SHS.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:13 AM

But Lonex is one of the best aftermarket parts source out there.

Although their motor is really the only one that is really must-have over SHS.

being the best at something doesnt make you innovative, its just makes you the best. Now doing it differently or making something new does, and I dont think lonex did that here.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:25 AM

I will give you the stock tube, but i think this can also be seen as a week point unless its compatible with aftermarket parts.

Do the STAR/ARES M4s not have a stock tube that is threaded onto the receiver? I remember that being one of the selling points of them...

Well, I cant see a customs person really going "Oh dear, that looks like a banana mag and its not an AK mag... CALL THE UMAREX HOTLINE!"...somewhere in germany, a lawyer picks up a red flashing plastic phone, V1s are launched at your house...etc etc


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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:47 AM

Do the STAR/ARES M4s not have a stock tube that is threaded onto the receiver? I remember that being one of the selling points of them...


Yup. Though they did tend to have their receivers explode with embarrassing regularity.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 12:41 PM

Do the STAR/ARES M4s not have a stock tube that is threaded onto the receiver? I remember that being one of the selling points of them...

lol, then point taken away! Im no armalite fan so im not really up to date on different manufacturers' m4s.
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