chas Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Now THIS is what I call NEWS!!! Before you ask: The source is simply GUnfire's (polish retailer, check them out, prices are great and cheap shipping to EU (no taxes, no customs), if you have to pay shipping at all...). They were some of the first to report about the PKM and Cyma Mk14 and got pictures out, so that's why I am confident that these news are true. If you understand polish, better go to their FB page, I used auto-translate. https://www.facebook.com/ASG.Gunfire AS VAL and Vintorez (wood kit coming soon after, I reckon). Repliki ACM i powinny by? u nas na prze?omie lata i jesieni. Jako ciekawostk? dodamy, ?e wcze?niej b?dziemy mieli na testach repliki VSS i VAL od LCT w wersji full steel! Replicas of ACM and should be with us in the late summer and fall. It is interesting to add that the sooner we will have to test and VAL VSS replica of LCT in Full steel! Garand and Carbine Is that a tanker version? Looks like it. Fugly. We just returned from China / HK / Korea / Japan, where we, for several weeks, visiting the factory and met with the producers of ASG replicas. We want to share with you interesting facts that we managed to get it.available autumn 2013. And of course you already have heard about the AGM (brand, not ACM) MG42 Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 I so want that M1 Carbine, as for the other stuff I can see the appeal and the heads of people turning but it is just not for me. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
-Drake- Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 VAL will be mine !! if LCT doesn't come out with theirs first... Link to post Share on other sites
GlockworkOrange Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Unless the M1 Carbine uses an AEP style gearbox, or something totally new, I'm guessing it's gas or spring then? Great news either way, all of them look great. Link to post Share on other sites
White_Death1 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 I think I'll wait for LCTs VAL and see if it compares. I've had very bad experiences with ACM guns but still looking for a good one(C'mon china,check up on those children once in a while!) I love LCT,their AKM is so beautiful,I almsot murdered my friend to get his! I can trust them not to make a massive cock up in R&D (Looking at ICS and their 'wonderful' AKS74U hop unit) A VAL will be a perfect backup if I ever get around to making that SV98 stock for my VSR. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 All the NPO VSS/VAL users won't be happy with this news. M1 carbine looks like it has a fattened up grip area to fit a ver7 gearbox. MG42 will probably cost about as much as their PKM, so not all too excited about it. Then again, that's still a good $1000 cheaper than a Shoei. Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted July 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 All the NPO VSS/VAL users won't be happy with this news. M1 carbine looks like it has a fattened up grip area to fit a ver7 gearbox. MG42 will probably cost about as much as their PKM, so not all too excited about it. Then again, that's still a good $1000 cheaper than a Shoei. You are right! The Carbine does have a fatter grip, pretty much the same size as the Garand. Since I have never held a RS in my hands, I dont care if the dimensions are a bit off. Just like any other Airsoft M4, MP5, AK, etc. Even if the MG42 (or MG3 with a few little mods) costs as much as the PKM, Im still hoping for the latter to go down with time. Rsov has it for 415 $ right now. I hope to be able to get it for 300 $ in a year or two. Link to post Share on other sites
abbadon101 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 I am getting a carbine. Don't care it might be a bit out of dimension, if its an AEG and doesn't suck all the balls I will love it and call it Susie. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 I want a polimer body, shorter mags and a front rail in that carbine for a T1 and flash light, I wont stop tactic00lizing it until someone pukes XD Link to post Share on other sites
Gigueand Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 So they're making a proper Garand, a "tanker" Garand and an M1 carbine? The "tanker" Garand was produced commercially post-war, but was not a military product aside from two prototypes that were built to test the feasibility of the concept. From what I recall, there's some anecdotal evidence of individual G.I.s doing modifications to shorten their Garands, but this practice was extremely uncommon. Linky to some info on the "Tanker." http://www.scott-duff.com/t26.htm Link to post Share on other sites
imp1864 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 It's the MG42 I'm interested in. Has it been released as I thought AGM were history. Any update would be great. Link to post Share on other sites
notrabies Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 While I'm glad they're giving it a shot, the VAL and VSS look pretty horrible. While the NPO dimensions are still a little off, these look like they had a drunk man describe a picture of the guns over the phone. Link to post Share on other sites
PianoBlack Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 All the NPO VSS/VAL users won't be happy with this news. M1 carbine looks like it has a fattened up grip area to fit a ver7 gearbox. MG42 will probably cost about as much as their PKM, so not all too excited about it. Then again, that's still a good $1000 cheaper than a Shoei. Not really. Those look rather rudimentary and are missing some important parts, such as the selector switch. -Piano Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Yea those ACM Vintorez's look really....flat and bland. No idea why, they look like they just came off a really flat 3D printer. I'd rather pay a bit more for LCT's versions. The MG42 I do want though - that has been a long, long, LONG time coming. Link to post Share on other sites
John_Lewis930 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Somebody else posted in the news about a Spring M1 Carbine, and the magazine looks suspiciously similar. If not, my second guess is that Redfire HK is behind these rifles, which would most likely mean that they are gas operated. Link to post Share on other sites
seagullman Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 indeed mg42... china is performing with the clones this year lets see some mroe sr47 clone proof o_o Link to post Share on other sites
lance201 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 I would really like to have an AEG M1 Carbine, and, as chas mentioned, nearly all ASGs are a bit out of shape, but, so what? All I want is a good wood-stock with it, because there is no chance to fit an original one and I will not get Patrick to make more german oak stocks . Lance Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 The AS VAL and the Vintorez are indeed a bit plain, they do lack quite a few details. Hopefully these are just prototypes or mockups. I think we are beyond the era of ACM making 70% replicas, like the infamous JLS F2000 or the first SCAR-L. If you at other cheap AEG's the materials or the finish may be worse, but there's not much of a point in cutting corners leaving out important details. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 The, uh, selector on the VSS/AS VAL is there. It's just switched all the way down revealing the gearbox's cylinder behind it. Let's just hope the flatness or half baked look is due to bad flash photography + flat black paint + small pics. Link to post Share on other sites
harborne blue Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 M1 carbine AEG? Ooooooohe yeeeees. That stock looks thick enough for the same internals as the Garand to me so fingers crossed. Link to post Share on other sites
notrabies Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Well at least the King Arms VSS is looking a lot better than the ACM: They also decided to make the receiver out of spec so that you can fit a PSO scope normally, but I'm not sure if that's the best choice. Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 isnt the KA one just that redfire company? or whatever that company is called. Link to post Share on other sites
Deinhardt Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 Really liking the looks of those M1's (carbines and garands) will have to have a hands on with the carbine grip to see if it feels odd though, as it certainly looks it! Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 if they ever make a paratrooper carbine, id be all over it. Link to post Share on other sites
intinerious Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 WUT. I guess the VSS I saw a while ago WAS a KA product O_o Link to post Share on other sites
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