expvideo Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 OK, so we all have at least one utility pouch/cargo pocket that has some space in it, so for all of you that don't have one, I recommend building a custom Airsoft First Aid Kit. I'd like to get a little discussion going about what exactly you think should be in there. As for my kit, I'll list below what I carry and why... But first, I'm sure some of you are asking, "why would I need a medic kit? It's just plastic BBs!" How right you are, but keep in mind that in a game you're running through the woods, and inevitably, someone will eventually slip on a log and rip their leg open. So being at the remote airsoft location, you should probably help a little before the Ambulance gets there, as that could cost a lot of time and blood. On to my kit... (all items are in airtight, waterproof zip-lock bags) 1. Sterile Medical Gloves - let's keep it clean 2. Sterile Medical Scissors - cutting tape, or other uses 3. Gauze (in various sizes) - covering wounds to keep them clean 4. Disinfectant - To prevent infection 5. Foam Wrap (like wet-suit foam, with adhesive) - good to keep blood in or (worst case scenario) cover a pierced lung 6. Tape - Not duct tape people. Medical tape 7. Cotton Swabs - Cleaning dirt out of wounds 8. Sport Wrap - Helps sprained ankles and makes great camo for your gun in a pinch 9. A paper bag - Some people do hyperventilate on the field 10. An Athsma Inhaler - Some people do have athsma. I keep one in my car too, even though I don't have athsma. So that's a basic kit, and it pretty much covers the average serious airsoft accident. I know a lot of people that have a small (bandade brand) first aid kit, but I recommend being prepaired. Accidents do happen. Well, that's my 2 cents, what do you guys think? Or do you think it's useless to have a first aid kit? I'd like to hear some opinions, so let's get it started! Aaron Link to post Share on other sites
Taclightmike Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 I usualy keep about a half pound of crack around just incase someone is having withdrawls. Link to post Share on other sites
elrey Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 Name your price, Mike. Link to post Share on other sites
Frost92 Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 I usualy keep about a half pound of crack around just incase someone is having withdrawls. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Really, I seem to be having one right now, send me some! Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 Ok this is what I'm currently carrying: 1. Sterile Medical Gloves - 2. Sterile Medical Scissors - cutting tape, or other uses (Flat bottom blade to prevent injury to patient- Very important) 3.Sterile Medical tweezers - Gold plated pincers 4. Antiseptic wipes -individualy wrapped 5. Antiseptic cream - plastic tube not metal 6. safety pins 7. band aids various sizes and long strip for cutting to size. 8. 3m Steri Srtips - skin closure (butterfly stiches) 9. Ibuprofen and Paracetamol (For me in the early hours) 10. Crepe Bandage 11. White Open woven bandage 12. PFA Dressings various sizes 13. Sterile gauzes various sizes 14.Tegaderm transparent waterproof dressing 15. medical dressing tape, waterproof. 16. Collaspable splint. 17. Sterile eye wash, eye cup and eye pack/bandage 18. Qualified medic card. And yes i do play the role of the teams field medic in big games. Also for non-use unless a real emergency arises i have a full sterile Kit inluding needles, IV drips and full para-medic kit excluding paddles. HOLY COW While i was writting this out we just had a 5.1 Earthquake! Link to post Share on other sites
elrey Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 Well good thing you were carrying that! Frankly, IMHO, the idea of an airsoft medic seems a tad silly. Although people could be injured, it still seems unneeded. Link to post Share on other sites
expvideo Posted July 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 I think it's nice to see someone that dedicated. I mean even if you don't NEED it, airsoft is about realism, right? A team medic should carry more than a pack of "healed" armbands. I think FarEast has taken Airsoft to a new form of realism, just like the people that wear real kevlar onto the field. It may be extra weight, but it enhances the experience. That and any emergency that might happen on the field is pretty much covered. Well done FarEast! Aaron Link to post Share on other sites
Psaldorn Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 10. An Athsma Inhaler - Some people do have athsma. I keep one in my car too, even though I don't have athsma. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Excellent, excellent, EXCELLENT. Infact, sod it. My appreciation for this idea can only be expressed in the form of a +1. Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 I think it's nice to see someone that dedicated. I mean even if you don't NEED it, airsoft is about realism, right? A team medic should carry more than a pack of "healed" armbands. I think FarEast has taken Airsoft to a new form of realism, just like the people that wear real kevlar onto the field. It may be extra weight, but it enhances the experience. That and any emergency that might happen on the field is pretty much covered. Well done FarEast! Aaron <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks for that, I'm qualified to use it all as well having being sent on a course with the Japanese Firebrigade for Earthquake response teams which im now apart of within my local community. Also the kit has come in useful we had a guy trip and break his wrist a feew months back, the abulance crew were rather pleased that they could just sit back and relax having me do thier work for them ....thankfully they gave me some replacements in thanks.. 10. An Athsma Inhaler - Some people do have athsma. I keep one in my car too, even though I don't have athsma. You want to be very very careful..... Athsma inhalers have a use by date on the capsules and each sufferer has different stregnth capsuales. I would not recommend you keep this in your kit as if someone uses it and has ill effects or at worse dies "YOU" will be held liable, As a qualified Medic i can't even give Ibuprofen and Paracetamol . Nice though carrying it but unless your a MedicalDoctor or Nurse I would stay well away from carrying any drugs in your kit. (Even though I have some syretes of Mophine and Adrenilin in my kit for realism i would never dream of issuing it to anyone and i think its probably illegal for me to carry it....) Link to post Share on other sites
elrey Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 Again, name your price. Link to post Share on other sites
Psaldorn Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 There is that, but to be honest, I'd happily sign a waiver mid-game to get a puff of an inhaler (as long as I knew what exactly it was - if I knew I was allergic to X then I wouldn't use it) - admittedly I wouldn't go to a strenuous event without my reliever anyway. But if it's unavoidable or you lose it mid-game.. So carry a legal waiver in the kit too. Also some stuff for diabetics maybe? I'm not sure how many varieties of asthma inhaler there are but the top 3 most popular ones should mean you get someones current prescription most of the time. But it's something that you'd have to see about - you're trying to help afterall. Link to post Share on other sites
expvideo Posted July 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 Excellent, excellent, EXCELLENT. Infact, sod it. My appreciation for this idea can only be expressed in the form of a +1. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks! Glad you liked that idea. As for you FarEast, I do understand the problems that can come from that, but I usually only allow that if someone specifically asks for it. I can somewhat safely assume that ehy know what they're doing. However I do understand the legal problems with that, but my brother is athsmatic so I've gotten used to carrying an inhaler everywhere. So I try to keep it on the "down low" but I do think I'll keep carrying it. Thanks for mentioning the expiration date! That reminds me I haven't checked it in a while! You're sharp. thanks! So again thanks for the warning, but I'd rather run the risk and not need it, than need it and not have it. You know what I mean, I'm sure. And by the way, my deepest thanks for being a certified medic. I have great admiration for anyone who devotes their time to that, especially after an ambulance crew saved my life when I was dieing of a GSW to the chest. I'm only here because of them, and I appriciate the dedication of anyone in that field. So again. Thank you for doing what you do. It takes one he11 of an amazing person to do that. Aaron Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 And by the way, my deepest thanks for being a certified medic. I have great admiration for anyone who devotes their time to that, especially after an ambulance crew saved my life when I was dieing of a GSW to the chest. I'm only here because of them, and I appriciate the dedication of anyone in that field. So again. Thank you for doing what you do. It takes one he11 of an amazing person to do that. Aaron <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thats the exact reason I became a medic.... I've probably had my fair share of thier services and what with the wife (See Avatar) being a Cardiologist surgeon (Heart Surgeon) and living in the most dangerous earthqwuake zone in the world she set me up on the course and i convinced my company that it would be a good idea that i went on it and they picked up the bill. Also here is another tit-bit....keep all your parts seperate, Ie Banages in one waterproof Zip bag , Band-aids and seri-strips in another and so on helps keep everything together when you pull it all out in an emergency, saves from everything rolling off. Also one large Zip bag as a spare id good to have as it can be useed as a breath bag if someone starts to hypervenalate through shock or other reasons. Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 If i take a med kit its useually just Super glue and elsto plast. If I *fruitcage* myself up to need more than that , then thats what hospitals are for plus theres the fact i know next to bugger all first aid. Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 There is that, but to be honest, I'd happily sign a waiver mid-game to get a puff of an inhaler (as long as I knew what exactly it was - if I knew I was allergic to X then I wouldn't use it) - admittedly I wouldn't go to a strenuous event without my reliever anyway. But if it's unavoidable or you lose it mid-game.. So carry a legal waiver in the kit too. Also some stuff for diabetics maybe? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The wavier is worthless and many people have been sued regardless of them..... basicly the best thing for any sufferer of either Asthma or diabetics is to wear those tags that state what you have and to carry a spare on your kit,l that way people like me can administer "YOUR" own medicine and which gets rid of the waiver and also the risks of administring the wrong medication. You see if someone is out cold you have no idea what the problem is, could be Dehydration, Asthma, diabetics, heart Attack and as medics we have to go down the list and remove them one at a time.... if someone is wearing tags (We check for em first) It could be the difference between life and death either adminstring thier own medicine or getting liquids into them. This is why its a big no no for no qualified people to carry prescribed drugs..... there are just too many factors to eliminate before we can even think about the course of action that needs to be taken. Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 While we're on this subject, does anyone know how to get on a first aid training coarse? I think the best bet would be the red cross right? Link to post Share on other sites
expvideo Posted July 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 Red Cross is your best bet. You can also ask your local police department for advice on where to go, they usually know. FarEast... Please just take this as a compliment and excuse me for sounding rude... I just have to say that your wife is beautiful. But back on topic, I do carry everything in seperate zip-locks. and I would only give a prescription athsma inhaler to a person that was able to tell me if it was their prescription (most athsmatics know). I do know the legal ramifications. The extent of my certification is a First Aid card and a CPR card. I'm not very certified. But at least that is some kind of certification, and (I hate to use caps, but this must be read) EVERYONE WHO PLAYS AIRSOFT NEEDS TO LEARN FIRST AID AND CPR. Seriously, it's not a difficult course and you can learn it anywhere, usually for free. Get certified! Link to post Share on other sites
FarEast Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 FarEast... Please just take this as a compliment and excuse me for sounding rude... I just have to say that your wife is beautiful. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> LOL no problem .....she says thankyou (And it's one of the many reasons why I married her!) As for training get yourself down to your local Firestation or Abulance station and talk to the people on the desk they can give you more information on any course they are holding, Red Cross and St. Johns do courses too and with the Red Cross i do beleive you can go very indepth if you stick at the courses, Also your local Swimming pool will do life saving courses CPR included. EVERYONE WHO PLAYS AIRSOFT NEEDS TO LEARN FIRST AID AND CPR. Seriously, it's not a difficult course and you can learn it anywhere, usually for free. Get certified! Would have to agree 100% wwith that also it's a must for event organisers as well and If you are certified let your local site or event organisers know that you are as the more hands that know what they are doing in the event of n Emergency really does make the difference (Especaily with CPR as 20 minutes CPR waiting for an Abulance is a killer!) Link to post Share on other sites
Redcap Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 Just a reminder for folks in the UK - Only State Registered Paramedics, State Registered Nurse Practioners, and Doctors, are permitted to issue medication of any sort or form in the UK. Not even a Qualified First Aider may give you so much as an asprin! Aside from that, you can carry pretty much what you like in your own First Aid Kit, for your own use. Can anyone say BOOZE? Link to post Share on other sites
expvideo Posted July 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 As far as personal medical supplies, my cigarettes ride very close to my first aid kit (ALSO in a zip-lock bag) If anything goes wrong, my first line of defense is to light up and hope somebody else knows what's going on... Aaron Link to post Share on other sites
Kingcodez Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 I Carry my Custom Engraved Halo 2 Zippo, an ACE Bandage, and some Electrical Tape .75". The Tape may not be as good as a bandage, but it'll hold me over for a short while. Link to post Share on other sites
Chris P Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 I carry my inhaler in my vest at all times and have a spare one at the safe zone. My mum has just got me a tag to go round my neck stating what medical conditions I have as well Link to post Share on other sites
Ilovenapalm Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 Always got a roll of electrical tape on me because I'm always cut my fingers on something.Usually have a box of Ibuprofen(Right spelling??)In the car and always have a couple of these on stand-by Link to post Share on other sites
demon.b Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 I'll just repeat what Redcap said, he got it right, although a pharmacist can make an emergency prescription to a person with a diagnosed condition, eg; asthma, diabetes. Dentists and a number of allied health care professionals have limited prescribing powers also. Prescribed medications are very tightly controlled in UK law, a paramedic or nurse operates under a licence issued by a doctor to give drugs only under certain circumstances (protocols) and must abide by these, if you give a non prescribed drug to a third party you are liable for damages and possibly prosecution. You may assist a person to self medicate or administer a pre-prescribed drug, eg; adrenaline (epi-pen) for anaphylaxis, if the persons condition is known to you or they ask for help. A 'medic-alert' pendant or wrist band is a great help in these circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Happy10 Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 As for training get yourself down to your local Firestation or Abulance station and talk to the people on the desk they can give you more information on any course they are holding, Red Cross and St. Johns do courses too and with the Red Cross i do beleive you can go very indepth if you stick at the courses, Also your local Swimming pool will do life saving courses CPR included. Would have to agree 100% wwith that also it's a must for event organisers as well and If you are certified let your local site or event organisers know that you are as the more hands that know what they are doing in the event of n Emergency really does make the difference (Especaily with CPR as 20 minutes CPR waiting for an Abulance is a killer!) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am curreantly looking into a red cross program and i will get certified hopefully (caus my friends a certfied medic and another one of them is a volunteer firefighter) and i want to be a life guard caus i already coach swimteam and will get more money if i become a lifeguard Link to post Share on other sites
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