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[MAA_Elvis]

It seems that retailers are no longer carrying Phantom's CIRAS line!

Mysteriously, shortly after announcing the new Multicam version of the Phantom CIRAS, Redwolf has removed all references from their site. I emailed them asking whether the Phantom CIRAS was no longer available and I got a response of:

"Yes, you are correct!"

Other retailers (1337tactical.com- based in Canada) also have removed the product from their site and Ebay.

[Pain_is_Red]

WTF?!?

[Headhunter3]

wow, you werent kidding......wtf is right!!!

this is all i could find

http://estore.websitepros.com/1332214/Cate...art=13&total=16

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/Phantom-CIRAS-Maritime...1QQcmdZViewItem

[Pain_is_Red]

wow, you werent kidding......wtf is right!!!

this is all i could find

http://estore.websitepros.com/1332214/Cate...art=13&total=16

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/Phantom-CIRAS-Maritime...1QQcmdZViewItem

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hahaha, you can always count on Krist at AA when the chips are down. Wish I had the money for a CIRAS now with this sudden disappearance

I have a sinking suspicion that Eagle is behind this, which means we may not see a replica CIRAS for a while if not ever. I don't see the CIRAS on any websites, and that goes for PROUD's version as well!

Edited by Pain_is_Red, 21 March 2007 - 03:29 AM.

[Headhunter3]

lol, yep AA is my new best friend.....thats where i got my CIRAS from.....great guy and great customer service.

[yellowman]

-ehobby
http://cgi.ebay.com/Phantom-USMC-Marine-Mo...oQQcmdZViewItem

[The Saint]

Goodbye CIRAS. Hello W*asatch.

[Merrick]

Is it possible that Eagle may have trademarked the CIRAS name? I saw Redwolf still had plate cariers and RAVs by phantom available, so it must be strictly someting in the CIRAS name. If so, Phantom may still be able to sell the Vest under a different name. I don't know that much about copywrite law though. Hopefully they will find a way of getting the replica CIRAS vests back on the market.

Edited by Merrick, 21 March 2007 - 03:05 PM.

[Stylin7]

I email Kastway Airsoft and asked about ordering on and this is what I got back:

"We no longer sell the vest due to it being very similar to the Eagle vest."


I just ordered one form Ehobby a few days ago.

Here is another one that I found on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Phantom-CIRAS-Maritime...4QQcmdZViewItem

Edited by Stylin7, 21 March 2007 - 03:22 PM.

[Sale]

Eagle has patents on a lot of the features of the vest as well, so simply changing the name would not help. It's like the Glock trigger safety: If it's there, it doesn't matter what you call it. That's why KWA Glocks in the US don't have the trigger safety feature.

-Sale

[Catman]

Oh hamburgers!

I was a week or two away from ordering one of these

[Grand'pa Cthulhu]

I just ordered one a week ago.
It should be here soon.

[uscmCorps]

There's a fair amount a US based company can do to get an online store to C&D from selling copyrighted items, but no where near as much when it comes to physical stores based in foreign countries. They may be taken off the online stores but I'd be really surprised if they stopped selling them in their actual physical stores in HK. Over the years, the HK government has been pretty strict about pirated software and movies, but replicas of copyrighted items like this tend to be off their radar. For the most part, Eagle is probably more concerned about the HK sellers selling the replicas to people outside of HK than they are to HK nationals.

[The Crunchy Bunny]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Thats not coll, I wanted one. Oh well, I might get the Phantom PCWC or the Eagle.

[statikzero]

Just when they were gonna release the multicam one, too.
LINK

That's gotta be a big hit to their $$$ after aquiring materials and labor, R&D, advertising, etc. OUCH.

On a side note I noticed redwolf had on the product page "does not come with the phantom label", maybe they actually reproduced the eagle label (bad move) and got pinched.


Edit: added link

Edited by statikzero, 22 March 2007 - 12:12 AM.

[kliskey]

If you still want a Phatom Ciras, Buy from Here The guy is awsome You could also try his Shop The item and shipping prices are amazing

[Sonny]

Dont know why but I just started singing the title of this post to that song "Where have all the cowboys gone" by Paula Cole...

Where is my multicam
Where is my coyote brown
Where is my olive draft
Where have all the ciras gone

Man Im losing it.

@ kliskey thanks for that scopeand laser site, will be trying them out for a few items!

Edited by Sonny, 22 March 2007 - 10:05 AM.

[x.black-jack.x]

They are discounted at 155$ @ hobbyasia.com till the end of the month :wink:

[Catman]

I'm not a big kit person, I don't dress myself to any particular uniform but I was actually looking at these Phantom CIRAS' as something I'd like to buy. Now they've been magic'd away like they never existed - no word or mention of it on WGC and Redwolf.

I can only assume some legal action has affected Phantom and these products have been yanked but it'd be nice to actually be told

I still have the one I was going to get bookmarked from Redwolf: http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airs...il?prodID=20382 I would have thought I was loosing my mind if it wasn't for this thread and that bookmark

[rolling-thunder]

People like ehobbyasia will still have some if you contact them.They mightn't be breaking their countries law by selling them & you wont be breaking our laws by buying them,if in doubt email & ask?