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[TiberiusBombard]

I don't know if this was posted already but the WELL MP7 AEP Clone has started arriving in the US.

I have mixed feelings about this one, however, if it can feed the STAR MP7 mags I might think about picking up one. For 90 dollars it's not that bad.

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?...roducts_id=2253

http://www.airsplat.com/Items/ERM-WELL-R4-MP7.htm

[Endospore]

I think Evike stocks it now too.

[Stealthbomber]

No idea about star mags but it works just fine with MAG 50 and 100 round mags.

Shoots at 265fps too! great little gun.

[otherrandomhero]

There's already a review up here on the forums. Apparently, upgrading it is a no-no and the hopup effect is almost nonexistant. It looks intriguing, I'd like a second opinion though to see if it really islike that.

[Stealthbomber]

I'm taking mine to a skirmish this weekend.

So far I've only really shot it at back-yard ranges and it's been accurate.
TBH, it's a CQB weapon and even if the hop-up isn't terrific it shouldn't matter if you're using the gun in the correct environment.

[Rapier]

Most of the reputable retailers and reviewers i've read have it listed as shooting 200. That's awfully low for a primary even in CQB. My TM MP7A1 is shooting 240 and it's almost too low powered for some CQB settings.

[newbkiller]

still, I'm sure most of it's problemsa can be remedied for less than a marui costs.

[airsofthawaii]

I heard it was pumping out more than 320 FPS. Acording to this: http://www.airsoftretreat.com/reviews/show...duct=175&cat=29 It said that,

"Performance & Accuracy
Despite its size, for all intents and purposes this is a full AEG. The only difference is the reduced magazine capacity thus, for our first accuracy test, we will start using .25 gram ammo. Loading the magazine was quick and easy as was insertion into the grip. Depending on the last firing cycle, the gun was either immediately ready to fire or required an inital shot to load the first round.


The first five shots averaged 225.4 fps, which is below average for an AEG and even a gas pistol. The trigger pull distance is medium and spongy but weapon discharge was predictable. Switching over to .20g ammo resulted in an enormous jump to an average of 322.3 fps, a 30% increase making it clear that this weapon was designed for .20 gram ammunition. Neither .20g or .25g BB's had enough momentum to fully puncture an empty soda can." Hmmmmmmm

Edited by airsofthawaii, 21 April 2007 - 05:03 AM.

[TiberiusBombard]

The first five shots averaged 225.4 fps, which is below average for an AEG and even a gas pistol. The trigger pull distance is medium and spongy but weapon discharge was predictable. Switching over to .20g ammo resulted in an enormous jump to an average of 322.3 fps, a 30% increase making it clear that this weapon was designed for .20 gram ammunition. Neither .20g or .25g BB's had enough momentum to fully puncture an empty soda can." Hmmmmmmm

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I don't know if I believe that figure. I can't be sure but I doubt there would be 100 fps difference between .05g rounds. I can buy 265 fps, but not 300+ from that tiny motor.

[airsofthawaii]

I don't know if I believe that figure. I can't be sure but I doubt there would be 100 fps difference between .05g rounds. I can buy 265 fps, but not 300+ from that tiny motor.

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Yeah, I know. Most full size AEGs are less than that. I bet with a nineball spring it would not be able to reach that.

[Rapier]

Not to mention that a .25 will only bleed off 50fps compared to a .2g BB. I have yet to see a WELL gun that actualy shot over 300fps, I highly doubt they pulled it off with the miniscule internals of the MP7

[otherrandomhero]

What? You're crazy. My WELL D-90 came shooting 280 out of the box with a .28

Edited by otherrandomhero, 21 April 2007 - 04:55 PM.

[Pendra]

My MP7 shoots at around 320 FPS. But it is a TM, has Nineball upgrade spring and a long 6.03 barrel. Does the WELL still misfeed a lot or was this problem addressed in the retail version?

[otherrandomhero]

I don't think it ever had misfeeding problems. The only problems I heard of were hop.

[Stealthbomber]

I've already said, my Well D4 is shooting at 265fps. That's exactly the same power as my P90.

Tried the gun at a skirmish today and, embarassingly, forgot to take the manual so I wasn't sure which way to twiddle the dial to increase the hop.

In any case, as others have said, the difference between "fully one way" and "fully the other way" were minimal.
Even so, the gun passed the "gate-post test" at a range of 20m.

It's fine for CQB or as a defensive back-up in woodland but you wouldn't plan on shooting people with it in woodland.

[TiberiusBombard]

I've already said, my Well D4 is shooting at 265fps. That's exactly the same power as my P90.

Tried the gun at a skirmish today and, embarassingly, forgot to take the manual so I wasn't sure which way to twiddle the dial to increase the hop.

In any case, as others have said, the difference between "fully one way" and "fully the other way" were minimal.
Even so, the gun passed the "gate-post test" at a range of 20m.

It's fine for CQB or as a defensive back-up in woodland but you wouldn't plan on shooting people with it in woodland.

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That makes me feel much better about purchasing this. For 90 dollars I can't really go wrong. And if it takes the MAG brand 50 and 100 rounders that just sold it for me all things considered. I'm just looking for a backup and/or winter sidearm.

[tome]

Hey Stealthbomber, so does your mp7 have noticable hop effect then?

I haven't had a chance to test my one out after cleaning the hop rubber with detergent yet. Hopefully it'll make my hop work

[DazJW]

Can anyone verify whether these are compatible with TM batteries?

I read on a shop's website that the WELL battery is slightly longer and won't work in a Marui, not sure if this means the Marui won't work in the WELL.

[the_viral_phantom]

These are now out in the uk as well but stupidly overpriced.
http://actionhobbys.co.uk/Well-R4-MP7-AEG_ABT2K.aspx
Viral.

[Jack Bauer]

With 100 or 50 round mags or a Hicap I wager it'll make an excellent sidearm/up close gun in woodland and naturally do the jerb in CQB.

Both mine had no hop effect noticable and were only able to shoot about 15-20meters max.

Yes, I bought two from RSOV. Sue me.

Edited by Jack Bauer, 22 April 2007 - 06:50 PM.