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#1 Anteater

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Posted 09 May 2007 - 09:25 PM

Went to Depot53 to browse and checked their news page Here specifically

Wondering if its been posted yet as I couldn't find anything on the forum. Anyways heres the body,

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In case you haven't yet noticed HFC-22 and HFC 134a gas doesn't seem to be as plentiful as it once was.  The problem is the US Department of Transportation recently banned the shipment of airsoft gas because the containers have not been approved for transport.  Up to this point distributors and retailers were restricted from shipping gas by air because it was categorized as a hazardous subtance.  However, transporting it by ground via the Post Office, UPS, FedEx and other common carriers was permitted.

Following the ban major airsoft distributors in the US were contacted by the DOT and told they can no longer ship gas even by ground.  As a result Depot 53 and other airsoft retailers cannot obtain new shipments of gas to replenish their inventories.  At the moment some retailers have stockpiled gas and can still ship it because they have not been officially notifed by the DOT that it can no longer be transported.  Gas can also be sold legally over the counter in local retail outlets. But ultimately, you, the consumer, are going to have a much harder time finding gas very shortly, because unless a retalier is within driving distance of a distributor and can pick-up gas in their personal vehicle they are not going to be able to obtain new inventory.

At this time none of the distributors we talked to had any idea on how long it was going to take for the government to approve existing HFC-22, HFC-134, Red Gas or other containers, or if a new design was going to be required to meet DOT specifications.  With this uncertainty, we recommend you stock up on enough gas to last until this crisis is over.


The canister itself wasn't ever approved to be shipped I take it.

If anyone knows alittle more I'd like to know, likewise if theres already a thread and I managed to miss it please PM me a link.

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Posted 09 May 2007 - 09:51 PM

ouch! that sucks the big one! sounds abit ridiculous to me, but who am i to judge on that though...
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 10:07 PM

Oh thank God, I found a duster adapter just in time. happy.gif
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 10:15 PM

ah man. I wonder will retailers bump up the prices on the Green Gas. And will the price on the Adapter go up also. Time to go stock up while I still can.
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 10:27 PM

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?...products_id=925
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 10:30 PM

lol, how is that not spam?
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 10:30 PM

Propane adapter time.
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 10:31 PM

Annoying rather than problematic.

Thank you very much airsoftGI and for the PMs.

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Theres DOT approved cans already, and they stock them, read their description.

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Posted 09 May 2007 - 10:48 PM

Ohh, I appreciate your PM anteater, sorry for the confusion smile.gif
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 11:04 PM

I've been using propane and duster gas for a while so doesn't really bother me, although I haven't been able to find to much of the useable type of duster gas locally recently...
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 11:07 PM

Summarize: HFC gases can only legally be sold at walk in stores until they get approved by DOT.

Doesn't apply to ALL gases.

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Posted 09 May 2007 - 11:21 PM

Any idea where to get the duster adaptor? I've not seen them in the longest time.

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 12:38 AM

That is lamer than FDR's legs!! I better stock up then...

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 12:44 AM

QUOTE (Johnny Sasaki @ May 9 2007, 05:21 PM)
Any idea where to get the duster adaptor? I've not seen them in the longest time.



I looked for the better part of 3 years before I found mine used on ASR..
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 01:08 AM

I wonder if you could jerry-rig an adaptor.

I also wonder about those R-134a cans at auto stores...
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 01:10 AM

QUOTE (sekiryu @ May 9 2007, 07:08 PM)
I wonder if you could jerry-rig an adaptor.

I also wonder about those R-134a cans at auto stores...


It would be fairly simple to jerry-rig an adapter.

You just need an empty gas can, a dremel, duster can head, and some epoxy.
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 01:15 AM

"Lon" describes and instructs on a "jerry-rig" in this thread.

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...dpost&p=1139049

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 01:26 AM

So the part you fit into the "nubbin" on the can, is part of the "straw" that you use to spray duster into those tight spaces?
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Posted 10 May 2007 - 01:48 AM

QUOTE (sekiryu @ May 9 2007, 07:26 PM)
So the part you fit into the "nubbin" on the can, is part of the "straw" that you use to spray duster into those tight spaces?



no, take the top off and cut out the round base that makes contact with the nub on top. Then take your little white straw and stick it inside of the round base with some glue.


BTW, these things work. Just made one.. happy.gif

Edited by Yeager, 10 May 2007 - 01:49 AM.

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 02:50 AM

The funny thing is HFC-22 and 134a are refrigerants that is illegal to "vent" or "discharge" into the atmosphere. The EPA has a minimum fine of $27,500 per violation per day. Not to mention possible jail time for breaking a federal regulation.

All this talk about being environmentally friendly and yet HFC-22 is an ozone depletor.
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