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[Chinx]

New STAR L1A1 SLR is on the homepage



Weight: 3,8kg
Length: 1143mm
Mag:120 rounds
Semi only like the original

Edited by Chinx, 02 July 2007 - 08:11 PM.

[Angry]

Pretty old news actually mate. But I do wish they'd hurry up and release it!

[Ming]

Amen to that. I have a 70s UNIT outfit waiting on one of these! ;-)

[DarkLite]

Beh. I'd really like one if it weren't for STAR's abysmal QC record.

[r.ocelot]

^what he said. Though I did get lucky with a PSS-300...maybe I'll get lucky again.

[Insanejoe]

Semi only like the original

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the L1A1 SLR being semi only isn't a good thing , your boys in the Falklands were picking up the FAL's off dead Argentines because their's were full auto.

[evilliboba]

Since when does full auto on a .308 chambered battle rifle do any good?

[Redcap]

the L1A1 SLR being semi only isn't a good thing , your boys in the Falklands were picking up the FAL's off dead Argentines because their's were full auto.

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Wrong. Our lads were picking up the Argentine MAGAZINES, not the FALs; the mags are compatible. Also, if I recall correctly, one Para was reported to have burned through something like 20 mags in one engagement in the war. On single shot.

By the way, you ever tried to control a 7.62NATO rifle in full auto? I have. It's well-night impossible - damn aiming point flies all over the place.

Have a great day - I'm trying to make my mind up between the new SLR (when it comes out) and the new CA53!

Decisions, decisions!

[Jagdraben]

Unless it's a SCAR-Heavy, there's no point trying to shoot a 7.62mm NATO battle rifle on full-auto. Whether it's the M14 (which was frequently locked in semi-auto by the armorers), the G3, or the FAL.

[thegunrunner]

Hope the price is good, I love the real steel gun.

[snowman]

the L1A1 SLR being semi only isn't a good thing , your boys in the Falklands were picking up the FAL's off dead Argentines because their's were full auto.

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Tries to resist temptation to mention that Insanejoe's boys in Washington were doing what they could to avoid helping the Brits, whilst appeasing a right wing Military junta guilty of horrendous human rights violations.

Who said the Argentines lost the Falklands War? So, they didn't get a few tiny islands, but they did get shot of their military rulers.

In airsoft form a proper L1A1 sounds like the kind of weapon a real 'artiste' would use - One who understands that stupid ROF and huge mag capacity is a poor substitute for a bit of cunning.

Cheers

[Forze]

Snowman, u were allready my hero, but now you're my god with that sentence

I really hope they will also make the SUIT scope for it, but on the other hand the real steel is only $249.99.

[Drayvn]

You guys have seen the rated MPS of that.... Thats kinda like *mumbles* 430fps *mumbles*!!!!!

[snowman]

mmmm - But semi-only is OK at that fps most places, isn't it?

Be a simplyish spring swap to get it down to 1J, I guess, if not.

Cheers

[Angry]

I like the idea that its been developed from scratch as a DMR.

[Drayvn]

mmmm - But semi-only is OK at that fps most places, isn't it?

Be a simplyish spring swap to get it down to 1J, I guess, if not.

Cheers

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Im not actually saying its a bad thing. Just the usual Star thing to put a huge spring in their guns!

[Pinkfloyd]

As long as you can scope it, it would be pretty sick. How long do you recon the inner barrel is on this baby? Near G3 size?

[Angry]

Well the real steel is listed as having a barrel of 533mm, so I'm assuming it won't be far off that.

[skruface]

By the way, you ever tried to control a 7.62NATO rifle in full auto? I have. It's well-night impossible - damn aiming point flies all over the place.

Quoted for truth. My former regiment here in Canada (Royal Winnipeg Rifles) was one of the last units issued C6's and C7's in the late 80's...I spent 2 years alternating between being an FN C2 squad support gunner (full auto L1 with bipod and 30 round mags) and the loader on a Karl Gustav 84mm crew. The ONLY way to control an FN (from the shoulder) on full auto was to limit yourself to 3-shot bursts, and even then operator fatigue meant that after the first mag was done you were pretty much only hitting the target on the first round - we joked that 2 and 3 were just to scare the pants off the enemy (7.62 FMJ has a REALLY distinct sound going overhead).

Prone and supported was a whole different story. The thing was pretty impressive once you set up in a defenseable position, as it had, in my experience, an effective range out to about 800m, and was absolutely deadly inside 250m. The only drawback was the mags - we were issued 5 X 30 rounds, carried in a "bra"-style chest rig, plus an additional 100 rounds of loose ammo in stripper clips. You could blow through that ammo real fast on full auto. Thankfully, the top-loading stripper clips made quick reloads possible under stress once your mags were dry.

Some people might also mention the muzzle volume as a drawback - deafeningly loud, especially on full auto. When I was in, they didn't often issue us with hearing protection except for big training exercises - our RSM's philosophy was that we wouldn't be wearing earplugs in combat, so get used to it....

[Chinx]

@Angry:
Really...cant find it somewhere around
but who cares *g*