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[newbkiller]

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?...roducts_id=2408

'nuff said.

[hardboiledcop]

1) They say that some parts of the gun are made of ABS plastic. Odd since the M500 is supposed to be full metal except for stock and foregrip.

2) I don't trust any retailer which states flaws or characteristics as if they were definite bonuses.

ie. some parts are ABS "to save weight". or "no flimsy shells". Since when were Maruzen shells flimsy?

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Apart from that, I'll wait until Marushin rerelease the M500 shorty 6mm thanks..

[IronWolf]

Exactly what revisions were made to make it safe to use with green gas?

[evilliboba]

Exactly what revisions were made to make it safe to use with green gas?

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Remove the relief valve or nothing at all. I ran mine on straight green with no mods.

[booster]

Hopefully they redesigned the magazine valve in addition to eliminating the relief valve (or increasing the spring rate)...but I doubt it.

[ghost_x3]

2) I don't trust any retailer which states flaws or characteristics as if they were definite bonuses.

ie. some parts are ABS "to save weight". or "no flimsy shells". Since when were Maruzen shells flimsy?

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It's called honesty. It doesn't say "no flimsy shells", it says " no flimsy shell loading mechanisms". That also doesn't mean it's saying that Maruzen loading mechanisms were flimsy, could be comparing to other brands.

[hardboiledcop]

honesty?

It's called overselling the product. Something almost all US retailers are guilty of.

Again, the Maruzen shell loading mechanism is not flimsy, m870's are some of the most robust gas guns around.

[xerxes]

On an almost totally unrelated topic, an excerpt from the source code for the link in the first post:

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[hendrix]

honesty?

It's called overselling the product. Something almost all US retailers are guilty of.

Again, the Maruzen shell loading mechanism is not flimsy, m870's are some of the most robust gas guns around.

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maruzen 870's aren't very robust. of course theres some out there that people have had great luck with but its also how you treat them and luck of the draw sometimes. not to mention if anything ever got busted maruzen isn't to good with supplying replacements even to retailers.

[evilliboba]

Back on the M500. I would only buy one if they replaced the charging bars with steel bars instead of the zinc POS stock ones. Mine broke in about 100 shots. The Prime and TGS replacement parts are hard to come by and when you do find them they are around $50.

[ghost_x3]

honesty?

It's called overselling the product. Something almost all US retailers are guilty of.

Again, the Maruzen shell loading mechanism is not flimsy, m870's are some of the most robust gas guns around.

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So telling us that it doesn't have a flimsy shell loading mechanism and that its made of hard ABS is overselling the product?    

By that comment I also assume that you've had experience with almost all of US Retailers?

Edited by ghost_x3, 14 July 2007 - 02:55 PM.

[hendrix]

Back on the M500. I would only buy one if they replaced the charging bars with steel bars instead of the zinc POS stock ones. Mine broke in about 100 shots. The Prime and TGS replacement parts are hard to come by and when you do find them they are around $50.

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Proud just released some on WGCshop

[evilliboba]

Proud just released some on WGCshop

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Damn it....
Don't tell me that.
In a few weeks I might have to pick a M500 again.

Edited by evilliboba, 14 July 2007 - 03:44 PM.

[hardboiledcop]

In my experience, US retailers are known to

a) over-hype products
b ) not get their facts right
c) give fps ratings with .12s

Of course these are not right all the time, but seen as most M870's around nowadays have had years of use, and with one part replaced can take Co2 without issue, I fail to see how they aren't robust. M1100s, now they're a different beast altogether, but they stress the parts a heck of a lot more..

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Anyway, I didn't mean to threadjack, just pointing out that a mainly ABS M500 is not only odd, but it's something never released by Marushin.

Shell loading systems are different, not better, not worse, but different. In this same vain their ad for a tm shotty could say "no need for those silly 8mm bb's, and gas, pah! spring is where it's at".

IMO m500s are no more skirmishable than M870s, especially when it comes to reloading after firing those 16 or so shots...

Edited by hardboiledcop, 14 July 2007 - 05:13 PM.

[masamune]

c) give fps ratings with .12s

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ASG is pretty reliable.


over here ASG, AEX, AA, and Poweredge are some of the more reliable places to buy from

[Rapier]

All I know is if it wasn't more expensive than my real m500 I'd have one in 5 days.

[masamune]

All I know is if it wasn't more expensive than my real m500 I'd have one in 5 days.

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whats with that with good airsoft shotties... unless you have a POS UTG or a TM (not saying Tms are POS) your gonna have to end up paying almost as much if not more for a decent shottie...

[orca]

Damn it....
Don't tell me that.
In a few weeks I might have to pick a M500 again.

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Trigger happy also made replacement ones.  They were released a while ago though:

http://www.dentrinityshop.com/pr_details.jsp?pid=10944

About $10 cheaper then the Prouds.

Edited by orca, 15 July 2007 - 11:26 PM.

[evilliboba]

Stop it...

[Ubar]

All I know is if it wasn't more expensive than my real m500 I'd have one in 5 days.

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get some tanaka shells in your real one ;D