johnnyj Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Hi all , well i now have a job that pay's well enough for me to start my leon sniper project , I have found and worked out how most of its going to look but! ... as i want it to split down like the real steal gun so it can be placed in an old suit case i have a very large problem i only know of 2 gearbox's that split in the same way as real steal they are the ICS m4 and systama m4 and i know getting handguard kits and stuff to fit the systema bodys is next to imposible unless u use real steal stuff so wot i would like to ask u all is , how far off is the ics body from CA and Tm body's (the after market parts are all for these guns) and the other question is how hard would it be to mod a systema spilt type gearbox to another (more common) metal body ? The list of parts that i would like to use are are: KING ARMS M4 Free float sniper kit ( short ) will be using a barrel from the long kit RIGHT sniper stock for m16 both are from WGC here is a pic of the gun from the film so u know wot i am talking about http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s197/de.../leonsniper.png any thorghts or if u have made this gun would be great ! thanks for looking john ps if none of this make's sence sorry just finished my 7th 12hr shift 30 min ago only 1 left haha........... Link to post Share on other sites
warthog Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Stock Marui, ICS or old CA bodys will work (hinge). Since the sniper stock won´t fit the ICS or Systema neither at the attachment-tube nor the motor, you´ll have drop those brand the frontsets should fit on both. The others will left the gearbox visible in the Guncase. As you exclude the Systema just for technical reasons get a Hurricane body and a PGC-split Gearbox. steap and a Pita to install but the only way for correct Disassembly in this case. The King arms short front set should be fine lengthwise but fitting the cut of M16 Frontsight might be difficult. optional JBU makes the same handguard with a short barrel and the M16 Frontsight so there´s only a barrel extension needed. I´ll start of the old CA-body i own as Budget permits. Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyj Posted August 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 warthog u are a star ! just found the PGC gearbox in redwolf and the order has been put in i will try and keep u all updated how the project goes thanks , john Link to post Share on other sites
Sale Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Should you give up with the split gearbox idea, there are AEGs you can take down with just one pin, but the gearbox will remain in the lower receiver. BTW. cool gun you're building. Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyj Posted August 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 hi sale , Yep got a room full of ca m15's and some other make's of m4's just wanted this project to look like the gun from the film , orderd the gearbox and that will prob take me a little time to get running right But i am thinking a 4-5 week time line for the full build ( want to break the cost down over a little time) Link to post Share on other sites
Little para Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Where is the picture of the rifle from, i have never seen that before? Link to post Share on other sites
Samm Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 It's from the film "Leon"? Hence the topic title. It's from the training scene with Mathilda, where she shoots the jogging politician in the park with a paint marker. Link to post Share on other sites
Little para Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 I thought it was Resi seeing as he said Leon, and i saw the picture and though WTF mate. Looks ace. Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyj Posted August 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLz19GYapgs this is the clip of it in use from the film Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyj Posted September 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Just thorght i would do an update to this little project , the top half of the gun is ready now and the first thing u notice is how damn small it is , i had thorght i had got it wrong so went back to the film clip and even there for a sniper its small And guys i will never buy a standard gearbox again from new ! the pro-win unit is just so sexy ! and so nice to build up i'm still waiting on some nice systema parts to build the lower half and then all i need for the gun is the stock ( just my luck there out of stock atm at wgc ) and a nice scope ( any thorghts on this guys ? ) on a side note the silencer that is used in the film i have not seen anything close to it ? here are some pic's of the bits that have been done Link to post Share on other sites
DS_n1per Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 How are you getting on with this. It's been a month. Any closer to finishing yet? Link to post Share on other sites
Downslide Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Where is the picture of the rifle from, i have never seen that before? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah. In the UK it Released as "Leon, The Professional." Here in the states they dropped it to "The Professional." It was pretty much our first dose of Jean Reno. I love the project, Johnnyj! I've got the same stock for a CQB cut down inspired by the "Carter Special" from Stargate. I've since hacked the buttcap shorter (by about an inch and a half). It's a comfortable stock, but it makes the gun REALLY NOISY! The motor is twice as loud as it was in the old CA grip. I'm going to get a different body for it, with an additional upper receiver, so I can put a more practical front end on it. This one is great for CQB, but it ranges out to maybe a hundred feet. Can't wait to see yours when its done! Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyj Posted October 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 hi guys yes its very close ! hehe working 14hr days has been dragging it out abit the only part thats missing atm is the stock and thats being orderd very soon all i need to do atm is get hold of a piller drill to make a hole in the handguard for the bi-pod downslide very nice non-run of the mill m15 you have there ! Link to post Share on other sites
Belladonna Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Yeah. In the UK it Released as "Leon, The Professional." Here in the states they dropped it to "The Professional." It was pretty much our first dose of Jean Reno. I love the project, Johnnyj! I've got the same stock for a CQB cut down inspired by the "Carter Special" from Stargate. I've since hacked the buttcap shorter (by about an inch and a half). It's a comfortable stock, but it makes the gun REALLY NOISY! The motor is twice as loud as it was in the old CA grip. I'm going to get a different body for it, with an additional upper receiver, so I can put a more practical front end on it. This one is great for CQB, but it ranges out to maybe a hundred feet. Can't wait to see yours when its done! Cheers! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> carter specials got a longer foregrip, that one looks like its shorter than a normal m4 ras. if im wrong, sry, but it looks too short in the front. R Link to post Share on other sites
Levett Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 looks like half the gun got lost somewhere! Link to post Share on other sites
zombe minge Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 looks like this is comin along nicely i like the look of the buttstock, do you have a price on what its cost you so far and can we have pic of it in one piece . cheers mingey Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyj Posted October 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Ok a day off and the flu have made me get all the GB together ,the sniper stock will be here early next week so i have put most of it together with bits i had in the spare's box as your can see i still need to get a hole drilled in the handguard for the bipod and the body needs a very small amount of work for the 2 halfs to fit 100% hehe and yes another scope is needed And as for cost..... i will give a full list after its all together Link to post Share on other sites
warthog Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 How is the handguard secured against rotating? Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyj Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Good thinking batman ! not even thorght about that as its very tight atm but as soon as that bipod gets fitted i can see it moving Any thorghts on this ? Link to post Share on other sites
warthog Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 i looked at the parts photography at wgc and the barrelnut has holes; so on my ras frontset two bolts connect these holes with the handguard. So is the Handguard just screwed on or is there a scrubsrew like on flashhiders or what ever? Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyj Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 It justs just screwed on , might be just a case of lock tight Link to post Share on other sites
warthog Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 thank you well i think i make a slot into the handguard and fit the the bipod via friction. edit locktite should work Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyj Posted October 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 well got the stock this week and have got it on the gun now , Link to post Share on other sites
PianoBlack Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Very nicely done, how's the stock feel? I've seen complaints of it being a bit wonky, but it looks pretty damn good. Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyj Posted October 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 The stock its self feels very nice but .... the joints along the lower half near the grip look a mess , just need to spray the scope or get a new one fitted and get some metal taken off the bushmaster site so it fits and last get the bipod fitted and it will all be done ...at last Link to post Share on other sites
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