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[thornado]

Another one that has airsoft in its sights to obliterate:

Bill Introduced in US Congress To Ban Any Toy That Resembles a Real Handgun

"US airsoft forums are abuzz on the introduction Bill HR 428 IH (Introduced in the House) in the 110th US Congress "To require the Consumer Product Safety Commission to ban toys which in size, shape, or overall appearance resemble real handguns" which is filed by Mr. Edolphus Towns of the 10th District of New York (Brooklyn)"

Link here: http://www.popularairsoft.com/news/bill-in...es-real-handgun

Oh well......

[Basho]

Hasn't this one been in and out a few times?

[Azulsky]

Rep Ballance, Frank W., Jr. [NC-1] - 11/21/2003
Rep Brown, Corrine [FL-3] - 11/21/2003
Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO-1] - 11/21/2003
Rep Evans, Lane [IL-17] - 11/21/2003
Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [FL-23] - 11/21/2003
Rep Jones, Stephanie Tubbs [OH-11] - 11/4/2003
Rep Lewis, John [GA-5] - 11/4/2003
Rep Maloney, Carolyn B. [NY-14] - 11/21/2003
Rep Meeks, Gregory W. [NY-6] - 11/4/2003
Rep Nadler, Jerrold [NY-8] - 11/21/2003
Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes [DC] - 11/17/2003
Rep Owens, Major R. [NY-11] - 11/17/2003
Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] - 11/17/2003
Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] - 11/21/2003
Rep Scott, Robert C. "Bobby" [VA-3] - 11/21/2003
Rep Serrano, Jose E. [NY-16] - 11/21/2003
Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. [NY-12] - 11/21/2003

Yeah its old, but he has those co sponsors so we need to write letters or email them or something. Besides doing this already for your congressman. I doubt anything will happen but if we pester them enough the first time around then they might give it up. Even little plastic toys from department stores and i bet those little paintball markers fall under the bill.
This is the same guy that is claiming that Harriet Tubman never got her pension when she "served in the army" during the Civil War

Edited by Azulsky, 20 August 2007 - 03:49 PM.

[PlasticMag]

Bobby Scott is my home district, as I recall. He annoys me, and I expect to write a letter...

[r.ocelot]

Ditto for Maloney.

[fanta101]

Hasn't this been tried like a million times already with no success?

[thornado]

Might not succeed, but who knows? But you US-based guys have a powerful pro-gun lobby, which I think is the National Rifle Association. Is that correct?

[hitmanNo2]

It does amuse me, trying to ban replica's in the US when you can walk into a pawn shop and buy real pistol for $100.

[thornado]

Hell...you're damn right HitmanNo2.

[sekiryu]

But you US-based guys have a powerful pro-gun lobby, which I think is the National Rifle Association. Is that correct?

Too bad alot of the real-steel guys look down on airsoft. They have the whole "only men with lots of money should have gun shaped objects" syndrome

[MP5SD5]

I think it won't go through, especially after someone high up in the (dunno what you yanks would call it) running of new york claimed that a Barret .50 Cal tracer round had quote "These bullets have an incenduary device, these are heat seeking devices!"

i Lol'ed at that one

[QQexDERA]

If you pitch it to them along the lines of "oh, they may be coming for us now, but they'll be coming for you NEXT" you might get a few of them to change their minds.

Gotta be worth a shot (pun not intended), hasn't it?

[Stealthbomber]

It does amuse me, trying to ban replica's in the US when you can walk into a pawn shop and buy real pistol for $100.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Careful!

The same logic can be applied over here about "lethal" air rifles and pistols. I can still buy a CO2 Beretta B92 or Colt 1911 but I won't be able to buy a TM M92 or 1911. Go figure!

Thing is, from their POV, it's just about removing items from the street. They might not have the right to remove a proper air pistol but even having the right to remove a toy replica is worth doing.
From their perspective.

[UrPeaceKeeper]

For some reason the hair on the back of my neck is standing up as if something as dumb and stupid as this could actually happen? The NRA plays a hefty role in gun laws but an NRA rally behind Airsoft guns is a far shot. The NRA promotes safe use of guns in target sporting activities. Airsoft Violates just about every rule they've ever made for safe gun handling but as far as I'm concerned it teaches you more respect.

I will always stand by the fact that all of the "Dangerous Toy Replica" issues come from a lack of education and parenting. It is why I WISH so hard that we could get a video together and tell congress to instead of banning, mandate that every place that sells replica handguns (either airsoft or otherwise) be made to force viewers to watch the video within continental US. I doubt a signifigant amount of these incidents (as the NRA calls them) were caused by a higher end replica such as a GBB, but more along the lines of what you can purchase at a sporting goods store like Dicks, Scheels, Cabellas, etc. The video doesnt have to be long, maybe 5 minutes explaining the US Federal laws on the acceptable use of toy guns.

[That_One_Person]

Too bad alot of the real-steel guys look down on airsoft. They have the whole "only men with lots of money should have gun shaped objects" syndrome

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hmm, mabye it is because you say real-steel?

Nothing against airsoft, just what I saw after browsing Arfcom.

Edited by That_One_Person, 20 August 2007 - 06:31 PM.

[sekiryu]

Hmm, mabye it is because you say real-steel?

Me and the entire airsoft community. And that has nothing to do with it. They just get ###### off when they're looking for a picture/video of a real gun, only to find a picture/video of an airsoft gun.

[Jay L.Macrae]

Ahh yes the "Gay gay gun free America Bill" - This happens when you have TOO many politicians with TOO much time, trying gain popularity amongst the GunoFobic parents of America. Especially at a time when any type of activity including themes like War and Guns are just so unpopular. - Just hate it when that happens Honestly, these replica and toy gun banning bills are like the plague... Coming to your Cinemas... No! Your Congress/Parliament SOON - This SUMMER! Gaahh

[That_One_Person]

Me and the entire airsoft community. And that has nothing to do with it. They just get ###### off when they're looking for a picture/video of a real gun, only to find a picture/video of an airsoft gun.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What the hell, is real-steel? Oh wait, I get it! Real-steel came from China metal makers advertising 25% steel 75% aluminum as actual steel. Damn, you almost had me there.

EDIT: That was just me bullshitting a fake history for "real-steel"

Edited by That_One_Person, 20 August 2007 - 07:49 PM.

[Pinkfloyd]

Oh ###### here we go again...i hate gun control freaks, i really do....

America...wow....just wow...sometimes i think we forget how our country gained its independence, and for that matter the reason we are allowed to own guns. It wasn't done for home protection, but to insure citizens have a way of fighting the govrnment should another revolution be nessisary.

[poorieuser]

Everyone that was talking about the NRA not promoting Airsoft because it teaches bad gun use needs to reevaluate reality. Most US based reenactment groups are affiliated with the NRA. In fact most have insurance from the NRA in case anything goes wrong. You know the groups that point live guns at each other with blank rounds?

NRA Affiliation Application
www.nrahq.org/clubs/aff-form.pdf
If anyone is interested.

Edited by poorieuser, 20 August 2007 - 07:35 PM.