ajay_may Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 I wouldnt have the first clue how to go about this, but how cool would it be to convert an aeg to this? IMAGES REMOVED CAUSE I CANT GET EM TO WORK! Link is ... HERE Oh sure i can't EVER see being allowed to use it in games, but still. MMMMMM I'd picture a p90 as the base, a steyr would be peftect with the longer shape but if they are discontinued i cant see them being chopped up. with some heavy cosmetic work done to make it look the part and a very large capacity mag it would ROCK im sure with some electrical engineering know how it could be made to be motion sensitive and rotate in the right way. Its beyond my skills, but i wanted to out the idea out there. Link to post Share on other sites
enzo100 Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 Pictures are not showing. Try using the picture adding feature when you first make the post. It is on the bottom of the posting box. cheers....................... -EnZo- Link to post Share on other sites
outlaw Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 anything is possible with the time and the parts.. would you want it automatic or crew driven? a joystick could make it manual easy enough. after that a mother of all box mags could do the trick. Sure it can be done. the question is what happens when i get close enough to knock it over so it stops shooting? Link to post Share on other sites
ajay_may Posted September 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 anything is possible with the time and the parts.. would you want it automatic or crew driven? a joystick could make it manual easy enough. after that a mother of all box mags could do the trick. Sure it can be done. the question is what happens when i get close enough to knock it over so it stops shooting? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> For autenticity, it'd haveta be automatic, though crew driven would be more useful for games. and fairer, kill the crew, kill the machine. I dont know why those pictures arent showing, i used the add image button in the post and they worked in the preview. I'll see if i can fix it I can't. i never have much luck with pics in forums, uh, images appear here Aliens Hardware Page Link to post Share on other sites
Corporate_Black_Ops Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 The base weapon for the originals were MG42s so I'd probably look at M60s for size (and large ammo cap) but the TOP M60s aren't exactly famous for their reliability... or anything else really. If I were ambitious I'd talk in terms of building from scratch but... Link to post Share on other sites
ajay_may Posted September 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 At least these would be large, easier to get something working when you've got space to play with. I'm just watching aliens now, huge and boxy these things. far to huge and boxy. a slimmed down version would still look the part with half the width and girth on these suckers. Though i dare say several batteries would be an idea, esp if wired up to sweep back and forth. Starting from scratch would be incredibly ambitious! Link to post Share on other sites
doc_newstead Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 I discussed this with a mate once, though we wanted to buy a load of those cheap (£6) EBB's from Antics, and make about 8 of them You could buy a motion sensor from Maplin (for a security light say), and hook it up to some sort of lever that pulled the triggers when it detected movement (simple hydraulics here). We wanted to make little ones that you could dot around your base covertly, twin-linked, so that when you got within about 15 metres of them, they started firing I'm sure the hardest part will be all the modelling etc. The mechanism for motion sensing and firing would be elementary stuff for somebody who knows electronics. You'd just scale up the idea from cheap EBB's, to something much scarier Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 I had an idea on how to do this, once, along time ago, so here's the basics: Base gun: FA-MAS (cheap, wicked RoF, and compact) Mold (almost spelled it mould! ) it into a basic ABS shell, or build a sheet-metal case. Attach a motion sensor from a light (as was already suggested) and rug it to a trigger as well as a 45-degree firing pattern that sprays in a figure-8. Two or three servos should do the job. Make it turn on and off remotly from a cheapo-laptop rigged to a small CPU in the gun. It'd be expensive as hell, but a lot of fun to use, especially in CQB. Link to post Share on other sites
Corporate_Black_Ops Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Why bother with rigging things to the trigger? Let's start from scratch... although we'll ignore the gun for the moment... For a start we need a tripod, onto this we mount a motor, with a reduction gearbox and a crank, this we connect to the base plate of the weapon (on top of the tripod and bearing mounted to allow the base plate to rotate freely). This is set up so that when the drive shaft rotates through three sixty degrees the base plate rotates through ninety degrees "forwards" and back ninety degrees (giving a sweep forty five degrees to each side). The weapon is then mounted, with the trigger group removed and the fire mode hard wired to full auto. OK, the sensor then needs to be wired up to an electromagnetic switcher. This is then wired up with one side replacing the trigger and the other to the motor. The default position of course has to be on the motor side and its probably worth adding a kill switch so that those in the bunker can switch the guns from overkilling the poor chap stuck in the open to scanning again. So the gun gets set up and you flick the solid state switch on the side to activate it. The gun begins sweeping its ninety degree fire arc and you retire to cover. When someone moves into range of the sensor it activates the switcher and the gun stops scanning and starts shooting, when they move out again it stops firing and scans again, if you blinker the sensor you might even get it to track fire by stages (assuming your target moved the right way). You would have to at least build up any weapon you use to MG42 size and bulk out all of the "electronics" around the ammo drum (and add the ammo drum of course). If nothing else but for the fact that a gun that big is hugely more impressive than a P90 on a stick There's also the fact that it would be sacrilege to create something like a robot sentry without trying to make it exactly like a robot sentry. For materials I'd probably be looking at copper and plastic plumbing, aluminium and wood, much easier than moulding parts. Link to post Share on other sites
squarepusher Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Already done - some crazy, crazy yanks on another forum (I forget which) have made such sentry guns, although I believe they're remotely controlled by a laptop. Which also controls BB tanks, a helicopter with a camera and the video screens and cameras linked to each airsoft team members helmet. I repeat crazy ..... and rich. -sp* Link to post Share on other sites
ajay_may Posted September 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 If nothing else but for the fact that a gun that big is hugely more impressive than a P90 on a stick <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The way you've described it it almost seems quite easy. the hardest part being bulking it up and making it lok like a robot sentry. Although The image of a p90 gaffa taped to a stick really making me smile. Link to post Share on other sites
Corporate_Black_Ops Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 With a piece of string running from the trigger to the bunker... Link to post Share on other sites
razorwire Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 I was thinking about how to make an automated system fair, cos you can't kill a lump of machinery. You just need to include two or three knockdown targets on the base, rigged so that if all the knockdowns were knocked down, the sentry would power down until it was manually reset. Link to post Share on other sites
Major Pain Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 sounds like a pretty niffty idea, would like to see a sentry unit in action on a skirmish, would make things very intresting Link to post Share on other sites
Major Pain Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 remote sentrty units Link to post Share on other sites
CountDoom Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Somebody did make one with a mini aeg, had a whole tutorial on it too. Cant find the site though Link to post Share on other sites
*SATAN* Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 http://www.unconventional-airsoft.com/projects/turret.php Link to post Share on other sites
CountDoom Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Thats the one! Meh! Link to post Share on other sites
Vincent Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 OMG Really impressive ideas you got ppl! Especially corporate_black_ops, nice going Link to post Share on other sites
Cabe Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 I shall give this some thought, I could probably whip something up with a battery drill and a couple of cheap PIR sensors. Hell if I used a full security system you could even arm and disarm it with a keypad as for "killing it" you could use several knockdown targets that have a strip of brass on the bottom that creates a circuit. if you run them all in series there will be a circuit all the time at least one is standing. you have to knock them all down to remove all power. Link to post Share on other sites
Ubar Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 http://www.iwantoneofthose.com/ROODEF.htm might be a nice starting point Link to post Share on other sites
Cabe Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 I world of IR sensors and control systems ordered from ebay. /me turnes on a neon sign with "Mad Mek Workshop - Now Open" Link to post Share on other sites
aimpoint Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 could i take on of thoes things ubar mentioned and rig it with a min e.g an mini mp5 any ideas ? Link to post Share on other sites
Cabe Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 yeah, take the IR unit, connect a relay to the chime, or buzzer, then run a wire direct to the battery/motor. it will be full auto, but it would be effective. http://www.unconventional-airsoft.com/projects/turret.php enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites
aimpoint Posted October 25, 2004 Report Share Posted October 25, 2004 dude thats all i need to know "aimpoint runs off to his little work shop hehe " Link to post Share on other sites
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