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[chas]

As for me, Ill wait for the 10' version, but this is freakin awesome. Whats next? MRP? Noveske uppers? LMT's?

[Murph]

That's awesome... Looks like I've got another project gun I want to build now.

[IronWolf]

Is this going to be sold under the "Bomber Tactical" moniker or an unknown Chinese manufacturer?

[0nslaught]

Is this going to be sold under the "Bomber Tactical" moniker or an unknown Chinese manufacturer?

im guessing under "Bomber Tactical", but only because there are those two LaRue Mount copies by Bomber.

[Burke]

standard RIS length with trades?

[snorkelman]

its one gunner's got listed as being an element part (53 bucks)

http://www.gunnerairsoft.com/catalog/produ...products_id=635

[freq88]

A part of me is like cool but a part of me is bummed because LaRue is a very small shop it's not like they're KAC, Colt or some huge firearms company. One can say well that it won't hurt their sales since this is airsoft. But I say it will since that's one less sale they could've made regardless.

[teetee]

A part of me is like cool but a part of me is bummed because LaRue is a very small shop it's not like they're KAC, Colt or some huge firearms company. One can say well that it won't hurt their sales since this is airsoft. But I say it will since that's one less sale they could've made regardless.

I would get the real thing, but it's almost impossible anywhere but in the USA. The Chinese aren't stealing too many LaRue sales here I'd imagine.

Is this available anywhere but Gunners yet?

Edited by teetee, 30 October 2007 - 03:41 AM.

[Angry]

I'd be tempted by these for my N4 Recon impression, but going on my experience with the Bomber LaRue mount I'm not so sure. It took a fair bit of dremel time before I could get it to fit correctly.

[j3T]

A part of me is like cool but a part of me is bummed because LaRue is a very small shop it's not like they're KAC, Colt or some huge firearms company. One can say well that it won't hurt their sales since this is airsoft. But I say it will since that's one less sale they could've made regardless.

Yeah well, LaRue refuses to ship items to European folks so they won't lose any European customers anyway. I'm going to get the clone rail when it's available somewhere else than gunners. It's their own fault that I'm not getting a real rail.

[uscmCorps]

Yeah well, LaRue refuses to ship items to European folks so they won't lose any European customers anyway. I'm going to get the clone rail when it's available somewhere else than gunners. It's their own fault that I'm not getting a real rail.

You could ask US members to help you get one. I've helped a few people get LaRue rails and other parts in the past.

Personally, I'm torn. I just bought a brand new LaRue 7" rail. It would have been nice to save some money and get a replica one, but then I remind myself that I can be a bit of purist and generally prefer real steel parts anyway.

I doubt this will affect LaRue sales as their customer base is real steel shooters. This won't take away from those sales as any real steel gun owner would be retarded to put one of these replicas on their rifle and think it'll work. From a copyright point of view though, I can't imagine LaRue would be pleased by this though.

[crablegs]

Or the chinese might have pulled a funny and copied the real steel threads too

[freq88]

That's a flawed argument there. Yes they sell 99% to real steel but that is still less one sale period. Also given how I've seen a few chinese knock offs they seem to be good from afar but far from good. Casted aluminum alloy versus milled aircraft grade aluminum take your choice.

[uscmCorps]

That's a flawed argument there. Yes they sell 99% to real steel but that is still less one sale period.

So you're saying that from a business economics point of view, it would make sense to significantly cut their prices across the board and loose significant amounts of profits in order to cater to that less than 1%? That same sub-1%, that to be honest, if they had the money and willingness to buy a real LaRue Rail to begin with, chances are the majority of which will still buy a real steel handguard/rail. That of the thousands of units they sell to the DOD, other US Government depts., LEOs, and especially to the American Real Steel shooting public per year, they're going to care about a few dozen units they may or may not loose in sales to the Airsofting community? No way dude. That's an uber flawed arguement. In order for them to change their prices, the other 99% of their customer base would have to significantly change their buying behavior... and that's not going to happen unless someone else comes out with a better product, and if/when that better product comes out, I'm willing to bet it's not going to come from the ACM clone manufacturers. It's that logic which makes me think that there's no way that the ACM cloners will have any significant effect on LaRue's sales.

[crablegs]

I would never buy a LaRue rail for my airsoft replica, but I would buy the clone, so they arent losing a sale from me.

[chas]

Hey! And what about the RS weapon manufacturers? Think of all the sales they loose to AEGs, because of collectors who prefer to have a 200$ replica rather than a 1000$ RS M16 as a wallhanger!!!!

Are you guys serious?

[uscmCorps]

Hey! And what about the RS weapon manufacturers? Think of all the sales they loose to AEGs, because of collectors who prefer to have a 200$ replica rather than a 1000$ RS M16 as a wallhanger!!!!

Are you guys serious?

LOL... LaRue's customer base are real steel shooters. Collectors who buy replicas, have never really been part of their customer base, and if they are, they are an extreme minority. 99% of collectors of real steel guns that I know would get a real steel gun over a replica if given the choice. And here in the US, they have that choice.

[snorkelman]

theres also the aspirational and product recognition aspects Large corporates wouldnt have time for it but smaller customs shops could well benefit from copied items that dont cut accross their established core market. Take a teenager not old enough to own a RS on which to fit the real deal he buys the aeg he buys the parts and kits it out and is thus aware of the brand and familiar with its designs long before he owns the RS. Course in an ideal world small custom shop would have both the recognition and a licence fee per unit but one of the two isnt neccessarily all that shabby

you can look at the following for some english premiership football teams in some areas of the far east that predates the availability of 'official' merchandise in those areas. Cheap knockoffs provide folks with an easy in at a stage when they only have a casual interest, allow that interest to develop to a point where the official merchandise can get a foothold and ultimately yeild enough influence and potential market to make it worthwhile for the official producers to clamp down on the imitators.

Edited by snorkelman, 31 October 2007 - 03:44 PM.

[alpha54]

Just wondering if anyone's got one of these yet? I'm very interested, but I'd like to be sure that the dimensions, etc. are correct before I buy...

[chas]

LOL... LaRue's customer base are real steel shooters. Collectors who buy replicas, have never really been part of their customer base, and if they are, they are an extreme minority. 99% of collectors of real steel guns that I know would get a real steel gun over a replica if given the choice. And here in the US, they have that choice.

I really do hope you LOLed at my comment and then made your point and not taking my comment serious?