Guinness Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 (edited) Right then, Ladies and Gentlemen I give you the clone edition of the venerable Marushin M500SSB 8mm shotgun! Well, actually....this is a review 'stub' I'm off to breakfast, then I will finish the rest of the pics and article and post it up this afternoon! Slainte! Edited November 12, 2007 by Guinness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Baur Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Unfair for making us was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IronWolf Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Such a tease , why not just wait until then before making a thread? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gigueand Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Grr, Guinness, this isn't even a stub. How dare you tempt us so! We demand you devote your waking hours to feeding us information on the latest Chinese clones! Eating, sleeping and breathing should be unnecessary! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted November 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 (edited) Is it really that big a deal? I took the pics, edited a couple then I'm off to put the feed bag on- I thought I'd generate some interest and a bit of a 'cliff hanger' ...have I offended you? Back in a few Edited November 12, 2007 by Guinness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkMM Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Is it really that big a deal? I took the pics, edited a couple then I'm off to put the feed bag on- I thought I'd generate some interest and a bit of a 'cliff hanger' ...have I offended you? Back in a few Well unlike some younger folks <waves walking stick in the populations general direction> I like cliffhangers - why I remember when ..... DarkMM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 damn, you raised my hopes with that promise of a review. youre a cruel cruel man guiness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evilliboba Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 *stares blankly at my computer monitor...* Why!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atarhorn Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 French reviews for you : http://acm-forum.fr/viewtopic.php?t=1152 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted November 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 (edited) French reviews for you : Now that's funny.... Guy come in and posts a "hey look over here" comment in someone else's review thread! the cheek! A few out of focus pics and it's in French! I guess I deserved it to some extent for beginning the thread. ahhh them Frenchies...they're a hoot! Actually he gets into more internal detail than I will here. Anyway, writing now, it will be posted in a bit! ....In the meantime, here's a diversion for ya, and it's not in French! The Kings Ball Edited November 12, 2007 by Guinness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nr.IV Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Guinness....u deserve to walk around in frozen underwear for the rest of ur life for this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I'm still working on the video review for my M500. Problem is, cameramen are so unreliable - I've had to cancel 4 filming days already. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted November 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 (edited) @ DarkLite: ...I think they have a solution for that- it's called a 'tripod' ? Ok lads...... Sincerest apologies for getting everybodies knickers all in a bunch today with the teaser! I honestly didn't think it would cause this much of a stir and fuss. My bad So now, without further ado.... The M500SSB Replica Stainless Shotgun Gas Powered, Full Metal, 8mm Image note: I have linked to larger images on many of the photos here- If there is a hand icon when you hover directly over the image, there is a larger, hi-quality image linked First impressions and a brief review of the Chinese clone of the Marushin M500SSB 8mm Shotgun Stainless Edition by Guinness Part I Box and Packing I received the new gun bright and early this morning from my good friends at Boomarms. I really can't say enough about Johnny and his crew, they go out of their way to take care of their customers. As usual, 2 day express shipping to my doorstep here in Colorado. The package came in the standard green wrapping paper that screams "Airsoft Toy!" And it was very well packed and secured within the container as well. As I said, I love the guys at Boomarms all to pieces, yet this concerned me just a wee bit.... The collector in me loves not having to remove blaze orange (in that super-secret process that we shall not speak of here ). Yet the Toy buyer in me was a bit in shock thinking "Wow, good thing I sent those Customs guys that batch of cookies....my gun could have been a early Christmas present" I have dispatched a note off to Boomarms kindly suggesting a bit more due diligence in preparation to ship. I know that he wants to get the products out as rapidly as possible, but it would be a big 'ol bummer if someones Toys were seized. Part II The Gun Shot of the gas reservoir. Trigger guard is black plastic. Detail showing magazine catch lever in 'closed' position Detail showing the magazine lever in 'open' position Detail photo showing BB magazine filler opening. Opens, loads, and operates exactly like the Marushin. Part III Next Edited November 13, 2007 by Guinness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted November 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 (edited) Part III Feel, Fit and Finish Being a clone of the Marushin M500, the shotgun is full metal and as heavy as you would expect. Easily as heavy, but not as long as my Marushin M1 Garand. I have handled the 'real deal' before, both a real-steel Mossberg M500, and the Marushin M500 this product is a clone of. The Clone is identical in balance and feel to the Marushin. However, it is in the finish department overall that we begin to see the difference between the more expensive Marushin shotgun and the Clone. It's important to start off with a frame of reference, I paid $95 for the Clone M500 plus $45 express shipping- $140 USD. The Marushin retails for $325, plus shipping. Of course the Marushin includes real wood stock and front grip.Overall, I am very happy with the clone. For the money I really believe it represents an incredible value. That said, I would point out some of the areas that show why there is a $230 dollar difference. Closeup of front sight. Sight is plastic, notice excess flashing at rear base of sight. Rear sight and safety switch. Rear sight is also plastic, but has thumbscrew elevation adjustment. Rubber recoil pad is pretty nice actually. Part IIIa Faux Wood Stock Parts Plastic glue-in cap on stock- not sure why it had to be built this way? The wood isn't bad... The disappointing thing is, there are a few big old thumb prints in the paint- one one each side of the stock, and a less noticeable one on the forward pump-grip. Good thing I'll be replacing these parts soon anyway Here is another nagging little bit- The screw is noticeably off-center compared to the sling eyelet. I will have another look at that and see if it can be sorted out easily.Part IIIb Metal Finish Don't get me wrong, the Stainless looks is very very sexy, however obviously scratches easily. These scratches were on the gun right out of the box. I've never seen metal scratch so easily actually. I believe even is this gun was painted black it would scratch very quickly.Part IV Next... Edited November 13, 2007 by Guinness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted November 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 (edited) Part IV Operation and Shooting Tests No Guinness Products Were Harmed During This Test! My test subject, an empty can of Murphy's Irish Stout next to a pint of real Guinness (of course ) What's the rush? Always need to prepare for any serious testing! Right then..... From 20 ft. 3 BB's right through side of can From 5 ft. 3 8mm BB's through bottom of can No Guinness Products Harmed During This Test! No distance accuracy tests yet, Its a Shotgun, not a Sniper rifle! Part V Conclusion As stated earlier, overall I am very pleased with the gun. Very nice, solid feel (like Marushin). Very impressive power (also like Marushin). The only areas I feel could stand improvement is the fit and finish of the gun. If asked I would have recommended the clone manufacturers open with the black version instead of the Stainless due to the ease of scratching and marring the finish. That said, I still really like the Stainless color anyway. I was skeptical at first but it is definitely growing on me. I'm going to look for some buffing or polishing cream and see what I can do about the scratches. This makes my 4th 8mm weapon, so I have no complaints about the size of the round. This is my first clone 8mm however and I would say again that from the perspective of operation, function and use- the gun is a winner. It's really cosmetically that is suffers, and I believe I can do something about that. I would recommend this weapon certainly for someone looking for a nice, sturdy and powerful Full Metal Shotgun platform. And the price is certainly a big reason to consider the purchase. Is it equal to the Marushin in appearance quality? no, but not far from it either.Ratings Overall Quality 9/10 Operation 9/10 Appearance 7.5/10 Power 9/10 Value 9.99/10Planned Improvements, Upgrades and Modifications Reportedly this will accept real-steel accessories, so there will be a vented handguard in its future. Then either a real wood stock and front grip or a pistol grip and real wood front grip. Also, I was surprised that I actually like the ring rear sights, but I will either replace with real metal or remove and replace the front with the brass bb sight. Slainte! -Guinness Edited November 13, 2007 by Guinness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hhsohn Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Thanks for the lovely review! But some idea of accuracy/group spread please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris North Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Beautiful! Now if only they would make the "Cruiser" 500, so I can't possibly find a reason not to get one. Except maybe empty wallet syndrome... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vektor Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I´m beginning to miss my old 6mm Marushin M500 I sold out few months ago, but looks like there´s a viable budget version now available. Great review, Guinness! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Munitions Man Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 So from your great review Guiness I'll take this as gun = awesomesauce yes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted November 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 So from your great review Guiness I'll take this as gun = awesomesauce yes? For under a hunnert bucks....a bit over with shipping? Yeah, I think its a winner ...At least until the Chicom M870 scattergun clone comes out..... Gawd I hope they are listening Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dookieboy Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 KEEP QUIET LISTEN TO ME "CLONE M1 Carrbine GBB or M3A1 that DOESNT suck!" jk AKM full steel please. Back on topic..: whats the fps on this thing, judging by the "can" test around 350? Christmas list now updated: _________ RS Type 56 Clone M500 BlackHawk Commando Strike Rig _________ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alex21 Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Hye! Very nice review! Do you think it will de possible to put a real-steel stock and grip on it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bangla_Black Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 (edited) Gosh! Guinness, I'm so sorry for the post interrupting your review! I'll get a mod to remove it right away. Edited November 13, 2007 by Bangla_Black Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sirrith Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 So would this be legal in the UK or in HK? (im not sure about power for things shooting more than 1 bb? lol) and I shall be flying over to your home and repossessing your guns soon, Guinness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Thanks for the lovely review! But some idea of accuracy/group spread please. It's pretty tight groupings up until 20m or so, then it suddenly spreads pretty quickly. And Sirrith, yes, it's legal in HK cos each bb is individually carrying (slightly) less than 2J KE. However, 3 of those almost in exactly the same spot almost exactly the same time is going to have a bit more of an effect. And Guiness, tripod's don't follow presenters for tracking shots etc. If I wanted to make a pile of YouTube fodder video review, I'd have done 8 by now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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