Murph Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I'm starting this thread as a spilt off of a dicussion that was starting here: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...&start=1480 About how many mags people carry, think is necessary, etc. I stated I use either 9 M4 Hicaps (9x350=3150) or 5 AK hicaps + 1 drum (5x500 + 3000 = 5500) I know with the M4 hicaps and playing recently with them after the end of a long day of skirming I'm running pretty dry. I don't reload in between games typically. I play in decently dense woods typically. However, I can often can see someone before they're in range. I spend most of my ammo on surpressive fire. Anyway... I'd rather have all that ammo and not need it, then be stuck out in the field wishing I had it. What about everyone else? Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Oooh me first For weekend games i get by find with 5 Marui Standards(70rnd), i usually dont go through more than 3 per scenario, and i carry a loader to reload them between(takes about 30seconds per mag) matches. For a big all day long game, i would have to fill out my vest with 8 110rnd mags. Link to post Share on other sites
metalhead666 Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 3150 rounds? That's insane. Even for suppressive fire, that's a lot of bb's. When I'm using my SCAR, I carry 7 MAG midcaps, plus one in the weapon. I bring 4 speedloaders into the field, and that will last me for hours. Link to post Share on other sites
obsessedwithairsoft Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 i carry as many lowcaps as i can/have. last scenario i had 14 20-round G3 lowcaps and two speedloaders. Link to post Share on other sites
darkchild130 Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I currently carry 4 M4 G&P midcaps (130rnds) and 2 STAR midcaps (130 rnds) with 4 speedloaders of 120 rnds each. that will last me a full day just about (although last game was so intense i got through about 5000 rounds) Darkchild Link to post Share on other sites
charlieboy69 Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 i take either 10 30rnd star locaps, (with one 130 midcap in reserve) or 3 hicaps, depending on gun, scenario,mood etc .... and as many pistol mags as i can carry edit=woops spelling Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 i carry as many lowcaps as i can/have. last scenario i had 14 20-round G3 lowcaps and two speedloaders. Im probably about to move over to the 20 rounders myself, what do you carry them in/on i dont know that i have enough room for pouches on my vest lol Link to post Share on other sites
ScottyT Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I use 9 Star M16/M4 30-rounders (1 of the box of ten didn't work) and one hi-cap for emergency use (only used it once in the 4 months I have been playing like this). Individual games rarely go longer than 60-90 minutes, and I just reload in between games. Full dump pouch and one mag left FTW!!! Link to post Share on other sites
obsessedwithairsoft Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 replying to azulsky: last game i had an ALICE rig with 3 ALICE pouches on each side and a dump pouch in the back. each ALICE pouch holds 2 G3 mags as they are made for 3 M16 mags. (edit: i think it was only 13 mags total) and suspenders. i have 6 alice pouches i don't need if you want them. Link to post Share on other sites
the roob Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I carry 8 MAG midcaps in my rig and one in the gun. I have on occasion at larger games swapped two mids for two hicaps. I use all the mags before I sit down and reload and can usually play the whole morning (8:30 - 12:00) before I have to do that. Sometimes I'll top off a mag or two if I feel like I am going to run out that round. Link to post Share on other sites
Benson Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I switch pretty often between SAW gunner and rifleman roles. My SAW setup consists of just one box mag, with a SAW pouch dedicated entirely to BB 4 or 5 BB bags. I've had my SAW for almost 2 years and I still can't understand why people carry around more than 1 box mag (other than wanting realism). It takes longer to swap out another box mag than it does to just pop off the side plate and poor a whole BB bag in. When I run rifleman setup I usually only take 7 or 8 midcap (100 rds) mags into the field. That will last me a good 3-5 hours without having to grab the speed loader. I find I get more kills with my low-ammo cap rifleman setup than I do sending thousands of rounds downrange as a gunner. Link to post Share on other sites
Troubadour Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 There is no need for that much ammunition. Even for suppressive fire. At that point you're literally being a jerk. Its completely unnecessary for MilSim. You might want to start playing Paintball. I've pretty much made all of my points in the other thread. No need to restate them here. One last final statement though. The thing about having it, and not needing it. You need to learn to conserve ammunition, thats half of the fun of airsoft. Anyone can put enough downrange to hit something. It takes tactics, aiming, and everything that MilSim. No offense, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people refused to play with you if thats what you do. (I am talking to Murph, everyone else your load-outs are fine.) Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted December 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 There is no need for that much ammunition. Even for suppressive fire. At that point you're literally being a jerk. Its completely unnecessary for MilSim. You might want to start playing Paintball. I've pretty much made all of my points in the other thread. No need to restate them here. One last final statement though. The thing about having it, and not needing it. You need to learn to conserve ammunition, thats half of the fun of airsoft. Anyone can put enough downrange to hit something. It takes tactics, aiming, and everything that MilSim. No offense, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people refused to play with you if thats what you do. (I am talking to Murph, everyone else your load-outs are fine.) Yeah, after your initial comment I had a feeling I was going to get flamed. Believe it or not, a lot of people play with me. While I do get a few comments from time to time about having that much, I've never had anyone say I can't / not allowed. I'm by far not the worse "offender" either. There are guys I know packing 16 highs. When it gets like that it really becomes and arms race. I know in Ohio most players / events are completely against hicaps, in New York nearly half of everyone had a drum mag of some sort, so I personally think it's a regional thing. I think I read that nearly everyone with mid and lows has a speed loader and uses it regularly through out the day. I carry all my ammo needs in one shot and don't have to worry about putzing around in the field trying to reload mags under fire, etc. As far as tactics and movement are concerned I'm sure there are a few people here that have played with me over the years that can attest to my prowless in those departments, despite what you might think I'm not a "BB Spamming Airsoft Rambo" I'm not trying to advocate the use of hicaps or anything. That's just what works for me and the games I'm in. More power to the people who like to use only a few lows/mids. Link to post Share on other sites
warbirds Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Well the people I play with are scared someone will charge them when they reload so the take off their glasses and call times when they are. I only carry 2 low caps and 1 high cap it last most of the game. Link to post Share on other sites
Jaager Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 There is no need for that much ammunition. Even for suppressive fire. At that point you're literally being a jerk. Its completely unnecessary for MilSim. You might want to start playing Paintball. I've pretty much made all of my points in the other thread. No need to restate them here. One last final statement though. The thing about having it, and not needing it. You need to learn to conserve ammunition, thats half of the fun of airsoft. Anyone can put enough downrange to hit something. It takes tactics, aiming, and everything that MilSim. No offense, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people refused to play with you if thats what you do. (I am talking to Murph, everyone else your load-outs are fine.) thats being a bit harsh, theres more to airsoft than just milsim. I know at the site i play at, most people use 3 or more highcaps, many use drum mags, i think theres only 3 who dont. its personal preference, and its best not to force your views on people, otherwise you're "literally being a jerk". My ammo usage varies depending on the gun im using, if im using one of my AK74's, ill use 2 highcaps and 8 mids. thats 1800 rnds. for my AK's i actually own 5 highcaps and 10 mids. I usually end up using around 2 midcaps in a game. If im using an armalite its usually 2 highcaps and 12 midcaps so 1900 rnds, i actually own 3 highcaps and 28 mid caps. Link to post Share on other sites
Ledpocket Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 lol Murph...regional. I am in NY, and I usually run with as many hicaps as I own for the given gun. Or a drum or box. Plus a bag of loose bb's. Sometimes I shoot a lot. Sometimes, not so much. Either way, reloading empty mags is best left for respawn. Link to post Share on other sites
Downtown_two Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 In my direct action kit I carry 9 lo-caps and 2 secondary mags. One speedloader for loading up between games if it's needed, I play primarily on semi and have found I can go a good few hours on my 9 mags before having to load up. Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted December 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 lol Murph...regional. I am in NY, and I usually run with as many hicaps as I own for the given gun. Or a drum or box. Plus a bag of loose bb's. Sometimes I shoot a lot. Sometimes, not so much. Either way, reloading empty mags is best left for respawn. Heheh I'm glad you posted... I use to play with all the same guys you do. Mike, Wookie, Andy, TDS, etc. It was hicaps or get owned. Link to post Share on other sites
Samm Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 There are guys I know packing 16 highs. When it gets like that it really becomes and arms race. Having more ammunition does not make anyone a better or any more unbeatable player. Link to post Share on other sites
Troubadour Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Well, I know in my region often events have a set amount of ammunition you're allowed to carry. Its usually like 800 rounds in any configuration with no loose BBs. Of course SAWs are higher, and Snipers are lower. Also, Jaager what kind of American would I be if I didn't force my views on others. (Of course that is a joke. America is one of the most tolerant Nation's in the world. We love every body, there are just a few bad apple's.) Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I carry 10 STAR lowcaps and a TM 68 rounder for my M4 ~368 rounds. For my AK I carry the stock 300 rounder, MAG AK74 middie, and I used to have a TM 70 rounder but it dissapeared last skirmish. And my M14 I have 470 rounder and 80 rounder (still need about 4 more middies though). Plus a M4 mag type speed loader and a 1000 round bottle feeder. I'm looking at buying a KA 600 rounder for my AK. And replacing my STAR lowcaps with STAR 105 rounders. Simply not enough ammo when compared to my freinds who run highcaps. When I do have to reload I put the last loaded mag I saved for this time in the gun and set it next to me when I reload the rest and have my buddy cover me. Link to post Share on other sites
Coldgunner Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 When I use my mp5 I carry 7 hicaps, 6 in the vest + 1 in the gun. for my JG SVD I only have one ak shorty hicap mag (all I need, may get another 1 or 2 though) and I currently only got 2 hicaps for my M16 but plan on getting more (waiting for a deal on the forums ) MP5 = 1400 bb's M16 = 600 bb's JG SVD = 250rds Link to post Share on other sites
darthrebelpenguin Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 I carry 5 lo-caps, one hi-cap, a bottle full of BBs, and a speed loader. I also keep a bag of AE .20s at respawn. This set-up ensures that I never have to worry about ammo! Link to post Share on other sites
Raven 6 Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 I carry 6 M4 MAG midcaps in my second line, 2 G&P VN midcaps in my first line plus one G&P normal 130 rounder in my gun. If I wanna go milsim I just load all the mags with 34 bbs (yeah, the Nam mags get 34 aswell [4 bbs don't feed into the gun]). When playing with the mags at full capacity I don't carry speedloaders, that way, if I ran out of ammo, I¡ll know I fired too much. If I'm being 1337 hardcore h4x milsim I carry just 2 speedloaders (that would make for the 200 extra rounds in my pack). Link to post Share on other sites
ARadam6696 Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 I like to pack about 2 highcaps plus a standard. Since our games are usually 30 minutes to an hour that does pretty well. Link to post Share on other sites
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