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 Mar 18 2008, 04:08 PM
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Regular Poster  Group: Commercial User Posts: 204 Joined: 11-September 04 From: Tilburg, Netherlands Member No.: 631 Country: Netherlands   |
Looks like BIOVAL is back and at full speed again. Their distributor announced today a new line of BBB products, the BBBMAX. This will be the ultimate BIO BB since it is not only degradable and nature-friendly (non toxic) but also reduces the amount of Green House Gases during the production of the BBBs. It is ironic to see that some of the Bio BB's on the market are less nature-friendly than regular BB's since the products process costs a lot of Green House Gases. Read along for the latest on BIOVAL.
(IMG:http://www.airsoftassist.eu/biovalbbbmax.jpg) NEW! BIOVAL BBBMAX! - 18/03/2008 This post has been edited by SlickAxe: Mar 18 2008, 04:33 PM --------------------  |
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Mar 18 2008, 05:35 PM
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They look pretty slick. Will be interesting to see the price tag.
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Mar 18 2008, 05:40 PM
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Regular Poster Group: Regular Poster Posts: 406 Joined: 23-January 06 From: California Member No.: 14,147 Country: United States  |
I agree with you scorch. I'm worried about the price tag. A lot of sites I play at I feel obligated (if not required) to use Bio bbs in my SAW, and that's gets ridiculously expensive at times. Hopefully these will be at least near the same price range as bio bbs being currently produced.
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Mar 18 2008, 05:57 PM
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Adv Member Group: Members Posts: 63 Joined: 2-March 07 From: NEW YORK Member No.: 35,609 Country: United States |
Ive was able to inspect a small amount and shoot about half a mag couple weeks ago. No jamming issues (6.01 barrel) but QC should be interesting once it officially hits the market.
I feel like I only got to test a "hand picked" batch so I would def second guess putting a brand new un-opened bag through my gun, without some serious inspecting of my own. They look and feel like polished glass and I believe they weigh around .27 NOT .28 I will give credit to the fact they are clear. Shooting semi auto while looking through my scope, I was able to trace the bbs out to the target, but it is extremely hard to track if your not looking down the barrel. I was a bit scared to test full auto for the idea of experiancing a jam. (still had some game time left that I didnt wanna sit out in case) I think everyone is correct in saying PRICE will dictate the sales of this product. BIO bbs are horrible quality and exspensive...hopefully these are neither. |
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Mar 18 2008, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE (Silas5150 @ Mar 18 2008, 06:40 PM) I agree with you scorch. I'm worried about the price tag. A lot of sites I play at I feel obligated (if not required) to use Bio bbs in my SAW, and that's gets ridiculously expensive at times. Hopefully these will be at least near the same price range as bio bbs being currently produced. Stop spraying then. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) No really, that's the disadvantage you have when playing with a supportgun. But you have a huge advantage with your boxmag. (unless everyone runs around with a M4 with C-mag (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ) --------------------  Challenge everything!! BOYCOTT UMAREX |
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Mar 18 2008, 05:59 PM
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 never talk about mom :( Group: Forum Regular Posts: 3,013 Joined: 21-October 04 From: Denmark Member No.: 1,895 Country: Denmark  |
QUOTE (SlickAxe @ Mar 18 2008, 05:08 PM) Small (average 5.92mm) Small? That's a good thing? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) This post has been edited by Utty: Mar 18 2008, 06:00 PM |
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Mar 18 2008, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE (WAAPURR @ Mar 18 2008, 06:57 PM) Ive was able to inspect a small amount and shoot about half a mag couple weeks ago. No jamming issues (6.01 barrel) but QC should be interesting once it officially hits the market. I feel like I only got to test a "hand picked" batch so I would def second guess putting a brand new un-opened bag through my gun, without some serious inspecting of my own. They look and feel like polished glass and I believe they weigh around .27 NOT .28 I will give credit to the fact they are clear. Shooting semi auto while looking through my scope, I was able to trace the bbs out to the target, but it is extremely hard to track if your not looking down the barrel. I was a bit scared to test full auto for the idea of experiancing a jam. (still had some game time left that I didnt wanna sit out in case) I think everyone is correct in saying PRICE will dictate the sales of this product. BIO bbs are horrible quality and exspensive...hopefully these are neither. .27 and no jams, eh? I might just check if the shop I work at can start importing these. --------------------  |
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Mar 18 2008, 08:42 PM
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I can garuntee my dad will be picking some of these up... The transparency is pretty awesome I must say, although:
QUOTE (Utty @ Mar 18 2008, 12:59 PM) Small? That's a good thing? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I have to agree. This post has been edited by choffman10: Mar 18 2008, 08:42 PM -------------------- G&P M6 flashlight for sale
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Mar 18 2008, 11:34 PM
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Regular Poster Group: Regular Poster Posts: 222 Joined: 31-December 07 From: Twain Harte, Ca Member No.: 47,808 Country: United States |
Aren't standard BB's atleast 5.95mm and not 5.92mm? Just a question. Cause the extra .0'X' does make a difference. I run 6.01mm barrels in all my guns and that from a .03 prom. or a .04 TN or a .05 BS makes a big difference. But on topic, just wondering about the BB size.
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Mar 18 2008, 11:38 PM
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 I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE. I DRINK IT UP. Group: Regular Poster Posts: 685 Joined: 8-June 06 From: Belfast Member No.: 21,355 Country: Northern Ireland  |
There is really not a big difference between a 6.03 and a 6.01mm.
Yes, usually BB's are 5.95mm +/- 0.01mm. Some are also 5.98 as well. --------------------  |
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Mar 18 2008, 11:41 PM
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Regular Poster Group: Regular Poster Posts: 388 Joined: 26-August 07 From: Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Member No.: 43,163 Country: United States |
Airsoft Elites are 5.98mm +/- .01mm, and Madbulls are 5.98.
Wouldn't these bb's make your gun much less accurate? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) -------------------- G&P M6 flashlight for sale
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Mar 18 2008, 11:55 PM
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Regular Poster Group: Regular Poster Posts: 321 Joined: 22-February 08 From: Sunny California Member No.: 49,693 Country: United States |
I hope these are widely available. I have no problem paying a higher price, as long as it's not extremely ridiculous, since I'm not much of a sprayer.
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Mar 18 2008, 11:56 PM
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I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE. I DRINK IT UP. Group: Regular Poster Posts: 685 Joined: 8-June 06 From: Belfast Member No.: 21,355 Country: Northern Ireland |
QUOTE (choffman10 @ Mar 18 2008, 11:41 PM) Airsoft Elites are 5.98mm +/- .01mm, and Madbulls are 5.98. Wouldn't these bb's make your gun much less accurate? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) You wouldn't really see much of a difference - They are the same weight. -------------------- |
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Mar 19 2008, 12:17 AM
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Regular Poster Group: Regular Poster Posts: 388 Joined: 26-August 07 From: Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Member No.: 43,163 Country: United States |
QUOTE (Beast06 @ Mar 18 2008, 07:56 PM) You wouldn't really see much of a difference - They are the same weight. Yes, but wouldn't it have the same effect as having a wider barrel? The bb's could bounce around more, thus making it less accurate - lemme make a comparison: 5.98mm bb traveling in a 6.08mm equals .1mm of "wasted space", and a 5.92mm traveling a 6.02mm barrel equals .1mm of "wasted space". See what I mean? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) -------------------- G&P M6 flashlight for sale
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Mar 19 2008, 12:27 PM
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Regular Poster Group: Commercial User Posts: 204 Joined: 11-September 04 From: Tilburg, Netherlands Member No.: 631 Country: Netherlands |
interesting indeed, but i think weight is more important to accuracy than size...
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Mar 19 2008, 05:43 PM
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never talk about mom :( Group: Forum Regular Posts: 3,013 Joined: 21-October 04 From: Denmark Member No.: 1,895 Country: Denmark |
QUOTE (SlickAxe @ Mar 19 2008, 01:27 PM) interesting indeed, but i think weight is more important to accuracy than size... Aha. It's just that BBs that are too small cause a lot of jamming, doublefeeding, misfiring and general badness in my experience. I'm currently using PHX .20gs for testing, and they're definitely smaller than my KSCs (PHXs slip through certain GBB mag feed lips without resistance, while the KSCs get held back by the same feed lips), and I can only conclude that smaller BBs are a bad, baaad thing: erratic groupings, unreliable feeding, lower fps. BB size is exactly why I recently ordered a selection of Xtreme Accuracy BBs in various weights, because they're supposed to be larger than average, resulting in awesome performance. We'll see. No Biovals for me, in any case. |
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Mar 19 2008, 06:40 PM
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 The screams, they sound like music. Group: Forum Regular Posts: 2,002 Joined: 2-October 06 From: The outskirts of Reality. Member No.: 28,558 Country: United States |
Excels seem to have the same problem as the PHX. IIRC I accidentally came across eight or so threads about GBBs jamming that ended up being due to Excel BBs' smaller diameter. Could be from their inconsistentcy, though, and I think most people have said they work well enough feeding-wise in AEGs.
These BBs seem pretty cool and a good idea regardless. Interested to see how they turn out. -------------------- |
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Mar 19 2008, 10:18 PM
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 Regular Poster Group: Regular Poster Posts: 483 Joined: 20-July 07 From: Mililani/Hawaii/USA Member No.: 41,486 Country: United States |
Any word on a US distributor for these yet? Thanks.
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Mar 20 2008, 03:40 AM
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QUOTE (Pariah_WP @ Mar 19 2008, 05:18 PM) Any word on a US distributor for these yet? Thanks. Dedusa |
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Mar 20 2008, 02:47 PM
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 We Will Remember Them Group: Forum Regular Posts: 3,889 Joined: 14-February 05 From: South Manchester Member No.: 4,560 Country: Man, Isle of  |
Where does it say these are biogdegradable? The information quoted from Bioval, and the advert pictured, seems to say they are "inert" and intert - to me - means will not break down. At all. Ever.
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