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 Jun 20 2008, 11:44 AM
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Jun 20 2008, 11:49 AM
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 Approved! Group: Forum Regular Posts: 1,699 Joined: 6-December 06 From: Devon Member No.: 31,618 Country: United Kingdom  |
Im not sure what to say about that....
It looks good but i cant picture many players getting it...tournaments maybe? -------------------- Ares Dual optic sight wanted!
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Jun 20 2008, 11:53 AM
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Adv Member Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 7-July 06 Member No.: 23,251 Country: United Kingdom |
Thats what I was thinking - the cost of all that kit to use would be pretty expensive and hearing "Player has been hit" removes the suspension of disbelief somewhat.
I could only see a small number of UK sites investing in it at best as it does not account for shoulder hits etc. Good idea but needs more sensors and will probably be cripplingly expensive. |
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Jun 20 2008, 12:11 PM
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 Potato potato potato  Group: Global Moderators Posts: 10,195 Joined: 29-August 06 From: Near Dumfries Member No.: 26,742 Country: United Kingdom |
Can it tell the difference between a BB hit and a tree branch hitting you?
Can it detect ricochets? Do they do a version that can be worn with a chest rig or kit vest? -------------------- CURRENTLY SELLING OFF ALL MANNER OF RANDOM JUNK AT INSANE PRICES. CHECK OUT MY SALES THREADS NOW!!!
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Jun 20 2008, 12:53 PM
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 Haha, Reversed Mince! Doom Style. Group: Forum Regular Posts: 2,321 Joined: 20-October 06 From: 1/4 Dutch, 1/4 Irish and 1/2 Scottish, damn i'm weird. Member No.: 29,495 Country: United Kingdom |
It seems like an ok idea for more indoor special events but for a regular day in the woods it wouldn't work, may stop players cheating as often but will still not be as effective, needs to be all over and that would be expensive.
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Jun 20 2008, 01:07 PM
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 Lord of the Lowcrawl Group: Commercial User Posts: 2,074 Joined: 19-April 05 From: Buffalo NY Member No.: 6,356 Country: United States |
If a branch hits you hard enough to leave a good sized welt then you should probably go take a time out anyway to calm down.
IMO, tying a rifle's electronics into the vest and integrating it into a usable vest platform = winner. But then you'd have problems with people getting hit in magpouches and the like and not calling it because the vest doesn't go off, two sided sword. =( --------------------  Shop at the WAR STORE! sponsor of Op: Irene and Eastern Coast WE Distributor! Reduced Prices, WTS: Revolving Launcher, Grenades, .50 cal sniper, Custom M14's, more!! When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world—“No. You move.” -CA |
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Jun 20 2008, 02:06 PM
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 Obey My Will ! Group: Forum Regular Posts: 3,395 Joined: 29-October 05 From: East London- Electrowerkz ! Member No.: 11,297 Country: United Kingdom |
thing is you cant combine the system with your own vest that plate is quite large i have a pistol on my chest and a shottie scabbard on my back with molle etc
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Jun 20 2008, 02:07 PM
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 Adv Member Group: Members Posts: 40 Joined: 30-December 06 From: across the wastes to the east - zombie country Member No.: 32,687 Country: United Kingdom |
i think the top comment on the link says it all - why would we need this when the honour system seems to work just fine with HONEST players?
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Jun 20 2008, 02:59 PM
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 All your BBs are belong to me Group: Forum Regular Posts: 3,573 Joined: 29-October 05 From: Isle of Man Member No.: 11,259 Country: Man, Isle of  |
Seems a good idea for tournaments but don't see it being used at a normal skirmish site. Good also for corporate events where you won't be dealing with honest players.
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Jun 20 2008, 03:08 PM
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I like the headshot noise great for tournaments i wonder if it gives you more points for a headshot
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Jun 20 2008, 03:11 PM
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good points here, although it does seem likle a step in the right direction to stop cheaters but what about gas guns and spring weapons they wouldnt be able to stop them from firing. but yeah it seems impractical, especially with players who dont like wearing the full face stuff and helmets.
But this reminds be of that laser skirmishing thing thats about that i really want to try, forgot its name... Jas Edit http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pEzE45VzM0c this video made it seem more like just going to lazer quest rather than airsoft... but this could just be how they play some indoor games. This post has been edited by kenshin9: Jun 20 2008, 03:18 PM --------------------  awesomely cheesy sigs ftw |
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Jun 20 2008, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE (kenshin9 @ Jun 20 2008, 03:11 PM)  Edit http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pEzE45VzM0c this video made it seem more like just going to lazer quest rather than airsoft... but this could just be how they play some indoor games. wahahaha xD That video made me laugh so hard, i dont exactly know why (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) maybe it was the music and the way the gaming area was set up. ah dear god thats made my day. overall the idea is a good one but as stealthbomber said, there are quite a few things that could go wrong with it, like playing in a forest would be totally impossible as if you need to hit the dirt it will go off and tell the opposing player where you are. how sensitive is this kit? cos long range sniper shots might not register if it loses too much velocity whilst travelling towards the target. anyways, good for indoor tournaments i guess (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Quil -------------------- |
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Jun 20 2008, 04:05 PM
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all the problems above make it unsuitable for experienced aiursofters, but keep in mind there is a market for people who just want to go and shoot each other in game form. so i could see this being used at some of those fields where non-hobbyist airsofters go and rent an aeg, vest, and ammo.
they have something here similar in concept, its a thin shirt that tears on bb impact so its not so easy to get away with not calling your hits. its not a perfect system, but the guys who play at these sites arent so serious anyway. --------------------  |
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Jun 20 2008, 04:08 PM
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Ok the first site who incorparates this in to their sites, I am moving to that area(as long as it's in the UK that is), aka I hate cheaters, you know who you are
Only thing is that people will put like huge shoulder pads on and hide their head so they get shot in a non-receivable area -------------------- if you think src are bad, you're living in Q1 2007
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Jun 20 2008, 04:21 PM
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I don't like it, the hit zones are to limited. How about hits on hands, feet, arms, legs, sides of torso and lower torso? It is extremely rare that I take a hit to the head or torso center mass. For tournaments it could be OK as people tend to cheat a lot at these events, but for a regular Sunday skirmish or milsim event is it absolutely useless.
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Jun 20 2008, 08:00 PM
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 US Marine, 6463 Group: Forum Regular Posts: 4,547 Joined: 12-May 06 From: Elkins Park, PA / Yuma, AZ Member No.: 19,136 Country: United States |
pointless. just play airsoft how it is supposed to be played. this would only complicate things, and is DEFINATEY not accurate or versatile enough
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Jun 20 2008, 08:16 PM
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Keep in mind this was developed in South Korea (Video has .kr link and kr is South Korea's internet domain) where (IIRC) velocities are restricted to very low levels.
This seems very practical for when guns cannot shoot with enough power so that players can feel it, but for the rest of us, it seems a little expensive if people are just honest. My $.02. -------------------- |
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Jun 20 2008, 09:51 PM
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Potato potato potato Group: Global Moderators Posts: 10,195 Joined: 29-August 06 From: Near Dumfries Member No.: 26,742 Country: United Kingdom |
Tell you what it WOULD be good for...
Sites could buy one and threaten to force known cheats to wear it. If you cheat you have to wear the vest. If you refuse to wear the vest you don't play. -------------------- CURRENTLY SELLING OFF ALL MANNER OF RANDOM JUNK AT INSANE PRICES. CHECK OUT MY SALES THREADS NOW!!!
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Jun 20 2008, 09:56 PM
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I'm super. Thanks for asking. Group: Regular Poster Posts: 651 Joined: 10-June 06 Member No.: 21,493 Country: United States |
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Jun 20 2008, 10:04 PM
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It looks like it would be fun to try out for the novelty, but not as a standard playing method. But I can definitely imagine trying it out for an hour or two and thinking "this is really cool!"
I like how they made more useful than just detecting hits like stopping your gun and from the video it looks like you can integrate it into some sort of a live stats system. It would also be nice for speedballish type airsoft arenas where people go to just pick up a rental package and start playing. But yeah, most of the cons have already been covered. -------------------- お前はもう死んでいる。
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