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[Crimson]

Exciting news from Tanaka: it appears that PEGASUS system is somewhat revamped. New gas system is called CASIOPEA and uses cartridges as gas holders. How this precisely works is unknown at this moment, but if guys from Tanaka properly pull this off, it could be next big thing in gas driven replicas. Anyhow, airsoft relevant products from Tanaka, available in July, are:

Gas gun M500 8.3inch /BK / Gas Charging Cartridge version 19,800 Yen (118.00 EUR)
Cartridge for Gas gun M500 /5rds 4,500 Yen (26.81 EUR)
Gasblk SIG P220 Japan Air Force HW Ver,2 22,800 Yen (135.88 EUR)

Source: Airsoft news

Edited by Crimson, 25 June 2008 - 10:43 AM.

[junior]

My god. Tanaka revolvers that use shells?! This is something that i know a BUNCH of people have been waiting for, for a loooong time.

I wonder if they will be just as powerful as the PEGASUS system...

[Aitch]

Looks to me to be bordering on the brocock system, this could pose a problem for UK residents ?

[tome]

IIRC Tanaka uses plastic frames so the Brocock scenario shouldn't be a problem.

Pity the fool that tries to fire real bullet from a plastic Tanaka

[L4byr1nth]

Yay!! Tanaka rules!

Ben.

[renegadecow]

Hey, and the 500 S&W as their first to the system. If it performs the same as the regular pegasus one, I'm in.

[Spedz]

Aitch; I'm not sure but seeming people have Tanaka Shotguns over here maybe proves something.....

[Johnny Sasaki]

Woo! Backronyms!

I'd rather if it was an M29... but an M500 would be fun and practical, because it's a very large area to store gas in. Count me in on this one.

[snowman]

IIRC Tanaka uses plastic frames so the Brocock scenario shouldn't be a problem.

Pity the fool that tries to fire real bullet from a plastic Tanaka

Maybe not against the spirit, but weren't Brococks banned because the ammunition contained the propellant and the projectile?

From January 20, 2004 it is an offence to manufacture, sell, purchase, transfer or acquire any air weapon using a self-contained gas cartridge system.

This will be the same (Marushin's shells won't as the gas just passes THROUGH the shell) and therefore, probably, illegal in the UK.

No-one ever suggested the law deals in reality, but in precision.

That said, this will basically be 1 shot micro M203 shells and I don't think they're illegal (not sure why they're not, though).

From a more pratical POV, imagine having to load BB and GAS for each and every shot? Not sure I see this as a step forward, personally.

Cheers.

Edited by snowman, 25 June 2008 - 02:30 PM.

[Mr.Hyde]

*Jaw drops*

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

Now I have to buy the older M500 in midnight gold and this, like right frickin now!!!!!!!! I just sold my old revolver yesterday and this comes out. HECK YEAH!

EDIT:

This is true Snowman, but it is more realistic. And if it shoots as well as the old one, it could possibly usable. That is if they come out with those ring things for shells, forget what they call them. Then I could use a belt of shells to reload, /grin.

Edited by Mr.Hyde, 25 June 2008 - 02:28 PM.

[snowman]

Speedloaders

It's not the loading of 5 or 6 shells into the cylinder that'll be a pain, but the gassing of each shell each shot (unless somehow they've built in a multishot reservoir).

At least you won't have to worry about the Gas Cartridge issue

Cheers.

Edited by snowman, 25 June 2008 - 02:32 PM.

[Crazy_Harry]

loading the cartridges will be an absolute pain in the backside, especially for a back-up, but just think of the fun factor...

I still have dreams that one day every airsoft field will feature revolver-and-shotgun only games...

[Korppi]

Very interesting. Now when they get metal kits around the gun could last you for quite some time as no worries about gas leaking. I hope the the shells are consistant and well sealed, the hop is good and that they release speedloaders.

[junior]

yeah while the loading each shell with gas may be a pain, how many shots do you really get out of the Tanaka Shotgun shells? I guess same theory right?

Again this is more so a collectors dream, and like the Marushin Glock coming out, plinkers and collectors will mainly pick this up. But because it's a revolver, this would make an awesome last ditch type of gun for skirmishers

I wonder how they configured the cartridge. It would make sense to have a single BB loaded at the tip, with the rest of the cartridge used for gas. Which would make more sense because i'm sure you can get about 2-3 shots then out of each fill...

[fal]

Do want!!

proly a box of shells(set of 5 or 6) would likely cost around 50USD though. But damn it. This is freaking ace. I'm not really worried about how many shots you get out of per fill. I would be more worried about the metal contents of the whole gun. I just hope they dont change nice metal cylinder into plastic one just because it no longer will hold gas in it.

[playmaker55]

looks like i need to add some stuff to my must buy list

[rapid]

Looks to me to be bordering on the brocock system, this could pose a problem for UK residents ?

This will be a major problem for the UK. The Brocock system Airpstols were been converted to fire real bullits, if the Tanaka system is the same then yes it will be a major problem for us over here. I for one wish that it does not see the light of day in the UK we dont need M.A.G and the uneducated saying that Airsoft guns can ALL be converted you all know how it goes. Im only saying this if they CAN be converted if they cannot then there wont be a problem.

[Swiper]

This reminds me of the debate on the radio about RIFs and conversions, since RiFs are made out of potmetal its highly unlikely they'd work... frankly I'd like to see someone stupid enough to try and their expression when it all goes wrong...

[hitmanNo2]

TBH, anyone who tries to convert RIFs deserves to die a painful and ugly death. Darwinism and all that.

[renegadecow]

Come to think of it, the real pain would be finding space on your person for those jumbo shells.

frankly I'd like to see someone stupid enough to try and their expression when it all goes wrong...

I can't be certain about my source, but it has been reputed here in the past and also the reason why RIFs had been illegal here for quite some time, that heavily modified springer pistols were made into single shot .22LR handguns. The government was alarmed due to the number of incidents when said modified RIFs would back-fire and end up injuring the user.

Edited by renegadecow, 26 June 2008 - 12:45 PM.