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[IronWolf]

Blurb:

Designed & manufactured by VFC

Features:
M4A2 Receiver
M4A1 Grip
Steel Flash Hider
Steel Gas Tube
Steel Selector / Bolt Catch / Mag Catch
CNC Machined Delta Ring
Steel Dust Cover
CNC Machined RIS Handguard Set
14.5 Inch Steel + Aluminum Outer Barrel
300M Rear Sight
SOPMOD Stock Set
Bolt Locking System
Functional Right Side Safety Indicator


Specifications: Gear Box: VFC Custom Gearbox ( 8mm / Ver.2-Compatible Internal Parts )
Motor: High Speed Motor
Magazine: 300 Rds
Length: 800-882mm
Barrel Length: /mm
Weight: 2940g ( Gun with Magazine Only )
Battery: INT-96-1400GGCQB ( Not Included )
Muzzle Velocity: 300-320FPS ( with 0.2g BBs )
Package Includes: Gun, Magazine, Vertical Grip, Rail Cover, Hard Case

Price: 435 USD

Link to WGC product page

[AVELLIN]

Unless I hear something bad about performance, I'm getting this. Comes with a case and is exactly what I'm looking for. Looking for anything anyone has to say about this or the Mk18.

[Johnny Sasaki]

Hmm, this looks vaguely familiar...

Sort of like all those other M4's.

[CKinnerley]

See, now that's the gun I wish I could've bought when I first got in to airsoft. Good trades, presumably damn solid build, more realistic controls than most, RIS unit and adjustable stock without having a PEQ or having to modify the stock yourself. All the features I'd like but don't have on my current armalite! Definitely have to consider one of these if the internals are decent.

[masakarijoe]

totally worth it! only $435 of my hard earned cash for just another M4? all right!
-Joe

[Magsz]

If the mechboxes are anything like VFC's 7mm AK boxes and even their second generation 7mm 416 boxes these guns with 8mm boxes are going to ROCK.

[felix4536]

is avalon=vfc??? the same company??? Ive seen that AVALON is making TM1911 parts. WHERE ARE THEY???

[ARadam6696]

VFC makes the m4. Looks totally awesome.

[M4A1lover]

"Functional Right Side Safety Indicator" finaly. this is on my wish list
Cheers

hasle me about bad spelling will you SOPMOD is one word get it right WGC

Edited by M4A1lover, 07 August 2008 - 11:28 PM.

[Spartan452]

totally worth it! only $435 of my hard earned cash for just another M4? all right!
-Joe

sarcasm? also it's gonna cost around 500 with shipping, and because it's WGC, they'll dremel out the beautiful trademarks, i'll wait til redwolf stocks...

[spartan490]

sarcasm? also it's gonna cost around 500 with shipping, and because it's WGC, they'll dremel out the beautiful trademarks, i'll wait til redwolf stocks...

Your probably gonna be waiting a while. Redwolf carries few VFC products, and they get them months after they are resleased at WGC. I didn't know WGC dremeled their trades. I purchased the VFC MK43 from them and the trades were fine.

Edited by spartan490, 08 August 2008 - 02:30 AM.

[Sinner101GR]

Jeez....

Ive been literally looking to buy something that looks exactly, and I mean, exactly like this, while straying away from CA. This gets announced the day after I buy a used TM SR-16 with some modifications....

Always happens.

[Agent47]

Your probably gonna be waiting a while. Redwolf carries few VFC products, and they get them months after they are resleased at WGC. I didn't know WGC dremeled their trades. I purchased the VFC MK43 from them and the trades were fine.

it's olympics time, perhaps WGC is afraid of authorities cracking down on them for not sufficiently obliterating trademarks...

on topic, looks good for a guest gun, IMO.

[Roecar]

Denitely intersted into splicing that working safety indicator into my guns is possible.

[Frakk2k]

Sooo, I am trying to spot the diffrences on this from the other ones I have seen (Like my Dboys CQB with long barrel), and.. Is it the flip up rear sight?

[0nslaught]

Sooo, I am trying to spot the diffrences on this from the other ones I have seen (Like my Dboys CQB with long barrel), and.. Is it the flip up rear sight?

It has a steel flash hider, gas tube, selector, bolt catch, mag catch, dust cover, and barrel. Functional bolt catch and a functional right side safety indicator. CNC machined RIS and a CNC delta ring.

This is made by VFC/Avalon, yours is a Dboys.

that is the difference...

[Habakure]

Must admit, if I did not already own an M4 I would get this, but am not one to have more than one type of AEG (As in more than one M4 or G36 etc) , unless its a P90. And thats just because I want to buy a new one as my old one has seen better days.

Edited by Habakure, 08 August 2008 - 09:06 AM.

[screamin_weasel]

It has a steel flash hider, gas tube, selector, bolt catch, mag catch, dust cover, and barrel. Functional bolt catch and a functional right side safety indicator. CNC machined RIS and a CNC delta ring.

This is made by VFC/Avalon, yours is a Dboys.

that is the difference...

when was the last time you were running round a field thinking to yourself "god damn i really badly need a steel flashider right now instead of my monkey metal one" ? and a gas tube ? who cares. you can barely see it, it does cock all, making a big song and dance about it is pathetic. same goes for the selector and dust cover. they could be made of plastic, and it would make no difference unless you touched the parts. saying those tiny bits are steel is just another way to make people think this gun is the best thing on the planet.

why dont companies put less effort into making useless things out of steel, and instead put effort into making recievers out of it.

ive got an original CAR-15, all the parts mentioned that are steel on this gun are most probably monkey metal on mine, and they all look perfectly good, they all still work. i know im ranting about a very small point here, but theres FAR too much emphasis on just how important a steel gas tube is on top end guns. the manufacturers are clawing at anything they possibly can to make their gun sound like its worth more than a clone.

im sure this gun is worth the price, but for the GB, RIS, stock etc. not the *fruitcage* steel dustcover.

[Angry]

RS Armalites have aluminium receivers, so why should airsoft versions have steel ones?

Comparing this to a DBoys is like comparing an Audi to a Daewoo. Yeah they essentially do the same job, but one is pretty *suitcase* and the other isn't.

[screamin_weasel]

i knew somebody would say that . i dont concern myself with real guns, i barely concern myself with airsoft ones, i was making a point of if any part of the AEG should be real material compared to real steel, it should be the reciever, not the ancillary parts. or at least thats where i think the emphasis should be.

it depends on how you percieve airsoft i guess. for me, a Dboys wouldnt be "pretty *suitcase*", because it will shoot a BB as fast and as hard as this VFC one. and with the money you save buying the Dboys, you can make the GB just as good and still have cash in your pocket. other people will be spaffing in their pants over the 'CNC milled delta ring' or whatever, which quite simply makes zero difference to how well your toy gun shoots BB's at a person.

horses for course, its the same old clone arguement, my main point wasn't about clones compared to 'proper' manufacturers, it was about all the hullabaloo made about the steel bits, that at the end of the day could be made from monkey metal and nobody would know the difference. and how manufacturers manipulate these tiny steel bits to bend the minds of airsofters into thinking its something you simply MUST have on your gun. or it will implode when you take it out of the box.

Edited by screamin_weasel, 08 August 2008 - 10:53 AM.