transist Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Vega Force Company introduced SR 16 E3 IWS (Integrated Weapon System), which is dubbed as Epitome of Eugene Stoner's design magic. As our reader Petersu kindly pointed out, it is (from yesterday) available in Taiwanese store KIC BBGun, MSRP is 17.000 TWD (366.15 EUR). From Airsoft-News.EU FAAAG huh? I wonder if they're trying to say something. Link to post Share on other sites
masakarijoe Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 thats a really cool product idea. im surprised that they are the first to do it, now that i think of it... i definately approve of this -Joe Link to post Share on other sites
Reborn Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Hey... Add an EOTech replica and I'll have a good rifle to go with my future desert PMC kit (which is inspired by the corporate warriors in MGS4). VFC's been getting better with their products. I just hope that this doesn't sell for a price higher than a VFC SCAR-L when it gets stateside. If it has reliable internals, I'm sold on this one. Link to post Share on other sites
Fin Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Another M4 varient? Come on VFC, your more inventive than that! Link to post Share on other sites
bb_hood05 Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Classic Army released something similar: http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/index....roducts_id=3746 http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/images/AR010M-1A.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
bonesaw53 Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I am just happy for ambidextrous selector and magazine relese. I will be picking one of these up. Link to post Share on other sites
lightemup99 Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 G&P has had this out for a while Link to post Share on other sites
[BS]_MARS Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Minus the ambi selector and plus a dumpy trigger guard. Link to post Share on other sites
0nslaught Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Minus the ambi selector and plus a dumpy trigger guard. And the mag release and bolt catch... wrong trademarks, sigh...G&P http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...%3DG%26pwst%3D1 looks pretty good, an accurate SR16 E3 Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 It certainly looks nice but after their HK416 failing on it's second game of it's first time out I am no longer thinking VFC are worth the cash. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 As much as I love G&P, they've been recycling the same basic M4 receiver for so many years now. What VFC has done here by creating their own unique receiver and added features like the functional ambi-selector, ambi-mag catch and ambi-bolt release... well I'm sold. I must have one of these! I'd be surprised if we saw a whole slew of AR variants from VFC. With this one announced, one can only hope the KAC PDW isn't far behind. Link to post Share on other sites
darkest2000 Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I love how the letters in red spells "FAAAG" Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I love how the letters in red spells "FAAAG" Truthfully, it's the first thing I noticed Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 And the mag release The one on the G&P is ambi too. Link to post Share on other sites
alexallan Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Love this, as 'USCMcorps' stated above, it's awesome to see a new style reciever with extra fun bits. G&P are a bit same old... G&P do a shortie version. Do we think VFC will do a shortie? I cannot justify another standard length M4. But a shortie with Magpul parts and lipo batteries! hell yes! Do we know when these are out? (sorry if i missed it somewhere) If VFC do read this, make a Bushmaster ACR! (magpul Masada). Everyone already has an M4 of some kind. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 The one on the G&P is ambi too. Except the G&P ambi mag catches suck. They're unreliable and aren't strong enough to ensure that the mag is seated properly. I had several of the G&P ambi mag catches on my M4s. Switched them all back to the regular mag catch as the ambi wouldn't fully lock into the magazine making it very unreliable. I even tried shaving off some of the material at the top of the catch. That wasn't good enough. The spring pushing the left side hook back into the receiver simply wasn't strong enough to do the job. The VFC ambi mag catch on the other hand is essentially the same as a regular mag catch except it has a more intelligently designed lever system to lift the catch out of rest. Much much better IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites
Vercingetorix Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I can attest to both VFC awesome externals, and the mag catch design... I have the hurricane sr-15 iws body and it was the first to have that kind of ambi mag release (obviously copied from KAC). I've been using it for 6 or so months, so I think I'd be able to coment on its overal reliablitity over time. Ity works every time without fail, and most of my mags lock in place perfectly (for some reason I have trouble with these no name metal standards.... I think the metal got bent on them on the slot that catched the magazine catch is that makes sense).... Theres also a built up guard around it so you aren't constantly dumping mags when you rub the gun opn yourself whilst running, etc...... Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 While the ambi selector switch is cool i can only imagine how much of a pain in the *albatross* its going to be to take apart. I cannot stand the gear system on their Scar, its just plain annoying. To the poster that asked about a short barreled version yes, im pretty sure VFC will offer that at some point since its pictured on their website. I did the conversion yesterday and the price for this thing was something like 536 usd. Thats a bit much for a VFC replica, even one as cool as this. I really hope that when/if this rifle comes to the states the price will be reduced a bit. On top of that, when/if this rifle comes to the states i really hope they dont butcher the everloving hell out of the trademarks because it sure as heck wont have KAC trades. Link to post Share on other sites
Hispeed1 Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 VFC externals= +100 VFC internals= -100 Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 VFC externals= +100 VFC internals= -100 Whats wrong with VFC internals? Their generation 1 416's had some switch related issues but other than that, not really that big of a deal. Would it be nice if they came with metal bushings? Sure but the simple fact of the matter is that at stock velocity levels, ie 350 fps, the nylon that they're using for their bushings is extremely stable and extremely well molded. Ive put 30K plus through numerous VFC guns without a problem. The only real shortcoming is that the last tooth on their pistons is made out of a material thats fairly brittle, it tends to crack after 15-20k rounds. Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Hmmmm Custom version 2 gearbox to make ambi selectorswitch work? Like theis avalon M4's and Scar.... I hope not Link to post Share on other sites
P-E Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I'm still waiting for the KAC PDW they promised soooo long ago! Link to post Share on other sites
k30dxedle Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Awesome. It manages to be both unrealistic and unoriginal, all in one gun! KAC's website (and a quick Google search) would beg to disagree with whoever told VFC an "SR-16 E3" existed. (SR-16 yes, SR-15 E3 yes, SR-16 E3 no.) Can't wait to get a close-up of the super-über-realistic nonexistent trades. Link to post Share on other sites
Thantos Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 So when is this due for release? And does anyone know if an M203 could be attatched to the barrel? Link to post Share on other sites
rws591 Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Yah, k30 is right. They completely failed me on this one. I thought they were going to do a real SR15 E3 IWS, but instead they did some cop-out gun. They said they were going to do a SR15 E3 IWS, but now they are not? I am so confused and disappointed. Real SR15 E3 IWS VFC's Earlier Pictures Maybe they will release the SR15 E3 IWS later, or maybe not. Either way the SR16... is lame. Link to post Share on other sites
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