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[nickthebrick65]

The madbull GSG was just released and now there is another "stun grenade" out on the market. Anyone heard anything about these grenades and if they are better than the madbull grenade?


http://airsoftglobal.com/product_info.php?products_id=8028

[deepsix]

some additional info, http://hakkotsu.com/html/content_product.htm

looks pretty slick, actually. From what I can discern, it uses a Co2 cartridge (there goes the cost of making a pressure vessel), but destroys the outer shell when going off to make the sound... kinda like the old AG-01 grenades (still got a box of those somewhere.... freakin' unpredictable loud things).


interesting find.... if they sell bags of replacement outer shells could be a contender. All depends on how fast it adds up to the $100 price range of the other grenades out there.



videos!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXcSTccehYY&feature=user

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31lOrXipAIY...nt_showroom.htm




...and.... extra bodies: http://airsoftglobal.com/product_info.php?products_id=8029

manual!

http://hakkotsu.com/download/Thunder%20B%20Manual%20v2.pdf

Edited by deepsix, 15 October 2008 - 04:58 AM.

[Korppi]

OT: Loved the AG-01, never knew if one would burst to your hand

[JohnDoe.com]

In that video it kinda jumps around, couldn't that hit someone? I mean...like.. hurt?

[Noart]

130 decibel?
That's even more moronic than the madbull one.

[Horsem4n]

it equals the escort though.

you think, based on how much of the shell explodes, you can stick some bbs in there and treat it as a grenade?

[deepsix]

it equals the escort though.

you think, based on how much of the shell explodes, you can stick some bbs in there and treat it as a grenade?

kinda doubt it, honestly. I still have a case of the old AG-01 "baking soda" grenades.... same concept of a grenade-shaped burst disk shell in these. BB's left a small pile on the grass at the site of detonation. No dispersal at all, or that mattered. Probably be better off putting some powder in for effect and play grenade rules.

Oh, and yeah, I ordered one and a bag of bodies.... couldn't help myself.

[Rob15]

130db seems a bit much, airsoft scotland/world are getting some in at some point but i can't see them being too popular over here where we already have very good reusable grenades, unless they work out at 30p or less per use

[Cpt. Winters]

"It can produce Over 160dB noise!!"

That says Airsoft Global. It sounds nice.

Edited by Cpt. Winters, 16 October 2008 - 12:13 AM.

[Noart]

It DOSENT sound nice! That's insane! I alredy have tinnitus and have problems with shooting an AEG, and i'm not the guy who uses earplugs because i need to hear everything around me (its called tactics) and i don't want to pay 2kSEK for a pair of Peltor Comtacs.

[Darthwhite]

If you already have hearing problems (or need to protect your hearing in any way) and are scared of loud bangs damaging your hearing dont mess around, buy some ear defenders! I work in audio, so i need to protect my hearing above all else. I forked out £200odd on my sordins (and claimed the money back as they are technically PPE ), but i would still have bought them anyway. This was before rumours of 100dB+ pyros were on the market, i got mine for protection against your "regular" MK5s and MK9s.

There are cheaper sordins on the market than the all singing all dancing background amplifying-comms compatable/make the tea/£500 models. Something like this is not quite going to break the bank at £100, and it ONLY has the hearing protection (so it lacks the features of the higher end ones), but it's worth it to protect your ears.

If you dont have the spare money for something high end like sordins, there are non-geardo building site ear defenders which have an auto-cut off. Cant find the link now but there was something for about £25 i looked at. Clippy and horrible, and it cuts out everything (unlike sordins*) but it will stop loud bangs and hearing damage.

*One of the main reasons why sordins/peltors/etc are so expensive is that unlike industrial electronic ear defenders, which shut off all external sound if it gets too loud outside, sordins sample a range of frequencies, and only limit those which go over a defined threshold. Upshot being that if a bang goes off, the "bang" is eleminated but the conversation you are listening too is not. Makes firing AEGs sound the shizzle; all the winy high frequencies are eleminated/dampened, so you only hear the (amplified) low end stuff. Makes the sewing machine sound go away, to be replaced by a cool thudding sound.

On topic: I would actually use these, in CQB, but i would prefer something which just used C02 capsules for re-usablity. The ones i reallllly want are the 9banger training grenades the police use: pin, spoon, real size and weight, blank firing.... mmm lovely!

Edited by Darthwhite, 16 October 2008 - 06:57 PM.

[Vogelsang]

On topic: I would actually use these, in CQB, but i would prefer something which just used C02 capsules for re-usablity. The ones i reallllly want are the 9banger training grenades the police use: pin, spoon, real size and weight, blank firing.... mmm lovely!

Nearest you are going to get is the NEW Botec Grenade - see Airsoft Warehouse Website - I've used one.... extensively in trials. Get one and try it...... 120Db @ 5m - A multibang is in the pipeline

[stop'n'go]

I'd personally rather go with the GSG. Its just so much cheaper in the long run. Plus, the whole pineapple style body really discourages me. The flashbang body makes alot more sense in airsoft unless theres a function to it. Such as bb shratnel.

[stealthlead]

ok here are the problems I see

1. Jumping up and hitting someone in the face, easy
2. It says the pressure builds up and the outer shell explodes. Wouldn't that produce shrapenal?
3. What if you're crouched down and this is thrown right next to you or something and goes off. Not only could it hit you but it could deafen you. I would be very unhapy if that happened to be.