chas Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 JG is jumping on the blowback bandwagon. I know we have all forgotten about electirc blowback ever since the WE M4 and that GBB AKSU, but those who dont like gas, dont trust it are dont wanna dish out over 300$ for a single gun, will probabily like this a lot. Apparentely, JG has a range of Ak74s (wood, plum, folding full stock, AKSU) ready for production. Since JG doesnt have any AK74, just Ak47s, Im assuming that the choice of introducing the blowback with a new model is that it may be a clone of the VFC AIMS system, a gun that is much closer to 74s than 47s. Or maybe Im just talking trash right now. Anyway, here's a video; short, but it gives you a good feeling about the upcoming guns. http://union.bokecc.com/flash/player.swf?v...autoStart=false Pics of the guns can be found on www.airsoft-news.eu Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Between this and TMs upcoming M4 I'm feeling the EBB goodness right now. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 these are great news, hope they make an AK105 clone too The bad thing is that the AEG suffers from the same problem than most of the EBB replicas, sometimes it doesnt finishes the movement and leaves the hop up exposed, something which doesnt happen with marui replicas, but what I like the most is that we can use the same mags as allways Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 bleh. just a clone of the old guarder system. note how the bolt doesnt always return on FA, unlike the TM. shame, if someone would clone the TM system it might give me an exuse to buy one and try to cram it into my VFCs. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Well, it may be old (and a bit crappy) but let us use our old mags instead the new an uncompatible marui mags, whic is a "pro" for me. BUT, if the clone the marui sistem and still letting us use the same mags... I would get one ASAP Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 no reason why you shouldnt be able to. clone the mechbox but not the hop up unit. problem is the with guarder/VFC blowback is it can cause reliability problems... and gives very little recoil. a bit of light vibration and thats it. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Just the hop up unit? so Marui just want to install a new "standard" AK magzine... great ¬_¬ Indeed if someone cloned Marui EBB and put it on different AK models keeping the good old Mags would be certanly great, but I cant see cloners being so keen on research... As Obi Wan once said, "patience". Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted November 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Unless someone proves the new Marui hop up is superior to the old hop, I think they just wanted to have exclusive mags so people would have to 1) only buy their mags to use in their AEGs and 2) have their not cloned. Link to post Share on other sites
darthrebelpenguin Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 There will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever be a clone of the TM recoil design. They have international patents, INLCUIDNG China and Taiwan. As far as the magazines go, the intent was to design a magazine that fed the entire magazine, including the last few rounds. Link to post Share on other sites
McArthur Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Since when the heck have patents stopped the Chinese? Seriously, I doubt JG give a toss. Link to post Share on other sites
WhutJP Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I also think that the point of the new marui mags was so that the new ones didnt waste those last 3 or 4 bbs that the current system does. And theres nothing to stop other companies making mags for the new system. Same with the batteries too, its different sure, but its also cordless and again, nothing to stop other companies making batteries for them. All in all i see the new TM ebb as a step forward. the ak74s were not a step forward enough but the m4 with the bolt catch and the proper emptying of magazines is getting there. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I dont mind having a cord in my battery at all, or a new mag which lets me use the boltcatch feature in the new EBB M4, but on AKs, using a new hop up/magazines... well, it was unnecesary =( I think Marui EBB systems are a good step in airsoft development, but since they dont care about other markets but the japanese, I encourage cloners to clone mercyless their system instead the Guarder EBB. But maybe the growth of JG, Dboys/kalash... etc, made them more concerned about international law patents... Anyway, any AK 105 (skeleton stock) with EBB will be well recieved in my collection Link to post Share on other sites
hymer Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I think blowback on Aeg is a good thing. Here in Sweden it is pretty cold most of the year and gas dont work good so ebb is realy nice. Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Where is the H&K love? We need GBB/EBB G3, G36, MP5s! Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I agree, but those will come with patience Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 There will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever be a clone of the TM recoil design. They have international patents, INLCUIDNG China and Taiwan. As far as the magazines go, the intent was to design a magazine that fed the entire magazine, including the last few rounds. doesnt have to be an exact clone surely. im sure china wouldnt mind a tiny bit of innovation to get round the patent if it meant they could steal TM's international market. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Now a EBB MP5 that would interest me. The patent thing, hmm its good they are tryign to protect them selves but also if the chinese market coudl tweak it a little and say its there won version it would be worth it for them in the long run. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Is there an estimated release date? Link to post Share on other sites
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