LordElpus Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=produ...mp;currency=gbp £60 plus post though... Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Plus it's STAR/ARES so it's wank. Avoid. Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Agreed. Honestly, you must really like the looks of this optic, because they are good for nothing, both the RD and, especially, the scope. Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted February 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Agreed. Honestly, you must really like the looks of this optic, because they are good for nothing, both the RD and, especially, the scope. I am curious how hard it would be to gut the internals out and replace the optic with the one out of the ACM 3x optic rail and the red dot with the innards of the mini dot sight. Link to post Share on other sites
Jimisin73 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I had one of these (the STAR version) a few years back - useless to say the least - the eye relief on both scopes made their use with eye protection damned near impossible... Avoid (as stated above) unless it's for cosmetic purposes only. That said, it's my understanding that the real steele has the same problem... Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 and as a result has now been binned by the German forces Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I am curious how hard it would be to gut the internals out and replace the optic with the one out of the ACM 3x optic rail and the red dot with the innards of the mini dot sight. The scope, maybe. The RD... very complicated? The worst part about this optic is that you cant use neither of the 2 optics. If any other gun has *suitcasey* iron sights, you can always slap on a RD. If your ACOG has crappy eye relief you can still aim with the top BUIS and use the magnification to spot enemies, but this G36 system leaves you with two useless optics. Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 This fills me with unhappiness, since I want a dual optic scope for my G36. I find it hard to believe that H&K would put a bad set of optics on their otherwise wonderful gun (it's less surprising to know that a replica of said optic would be bad) but it doesn't make me feel good to know that no-one has a good word to say about the sights I want for my AEG. Link to post Share on other sites
Mat Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 A Hensoldt RS lower sight can be bought cheaply from ebay. However the upper site would be the issue, unfortunately without buying one it'd be a pain to try working out what you could fit inside in it's place. Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Saw a RS dual-optic rail on the HKPro forums.... $600. Link to post Share on other sites
Panzergraf Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Yeah, too much for my pockets too, unless it really was the be-all end-all of weapon optics, which it isn't. The STAR replica would be great if the red dot didn't provide so much suction. The scope isn't that important to me as it has limited use in airsoft, but a good red dot would be appreciated. It's lucky for us flecktarded-airsofters that the german army didn't like these and went for a railed-scope instead on the G36A2, and even better that they seem to like putting EOTech's on top of these I find it hard to believe that H&K would put a bad set of optics on their otherwise wonderful gun Well, back in the 90's when the G36 was new, the scope/red dot combo was probably amazing, but these days there are much better optics available for much less. Link to post Share on other sites
shidarin Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Hmm, so with the G36A2, they're all using the normal 3x scope with rails ontop? Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 the src duel optic is by far the best option, its half the price and at least has a clear optic. the dot is a bit large anf fuzzy, but at least it doesnt look like you are staring at the bottom of a corona bottle. Link to post Share on other sites
EmptyChambers Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I didn't know that SRC was producing a dual optic handle. I don't suppose you could let me in on the secret, could you? Link to post Share on other sites
Panzergraf Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Hmm, so with the G36A2, they're all using the normal 3x scope with rails ontop? G36A2: G36A2 handguard with rails: Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Don't know if they still are or not. I was never realy a fan of the SRC line. I used to manage a store and when they first put out their V3 gearbox guns we had a couple G36 with the duel optics in the hardcases for about $320 or so. I think I remember briefly seeing them on Gunnerairsoft.com a year or so ago, but I'm not sure. Like I said, they where not the best, but at least you could see threw them as opposed to the STAR and G&G ones where they used horrid uneven glas that you couldn't even see clearly out of. Link to post Share on other sites
imaheretic Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 The new Star/Ares versions are improved, I had a look at one at Fire Support a couple of weeks ago. The eye relief is considerably better than the original Star one. Also you can actually see the reticule, from memory the old star one was so thin, it was barely visable. Nick Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Having received my MG36 with dual-optic rail the other day, I found - as anticipated - that the scope was utterly useless. It gives a blurry image, the markings are unreadable and the eye relief is poor. The red dot works little better, the dot is too bright, with no adjustment, and is unfocussed, more a shapeless blob than a nice accurate dot to show what you're aiming at. So I went back to the G&P G36E scoped rail and will get a the G36A2-style rail with RIS and scope when I get chance... Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 btw, went back and checked a few OLD posts on a local forum, it was the STAR G36 that had the duel-optic. We just got them at the same time as the pre released batch of SRCs came in so it all kinda blured togeather. Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 It would blur together if you were looking at it through the scope of a Star G36.... Link to post Share on other sites
J3st3r Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 gutted but it looks good , on a slightly different topic can the G36c barrel and forgrip be change to make it a K? Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Yes. Although the K has a slightly (and I mean, *REALLY* slightly) longer stock as well the longer barrel and foregrip. The G36 is very modular in construction, and can be altered in configuration in only a few minutes. It's almost as easy as the Steyr AUG - just a couple of screws to undo after taking the foregrip off and the whole barrel section slides out of the front and you can put another barrel section in. The stock can be swapped over quite quickly also, and the gearbox/pistol grip can be quickly replaced with another one (say a 450fps, semi-only one?) with the removal of a couple of pins. I just got a G36, and I honestly wish I'd got one earlier. At the moment, I have it in MG36 mode, but it can swap to G36K mode in about 5 minutes max. Link to post Share on other sites
J3st3r Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Cool im now on the look out for g36 parts Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I have some for sale, check AEG Accessories. Link to post Share on other sites
J3st3r Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 all i need now is to have 100posts so i can Link to post Share on other sites
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