The Reptile House Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 While we're on faith versus reason, there's a discourse going on on TSI's wall on FB about production updates (good or bad). Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 For your viewing pleasure and curiosities.... The first pic is my real steel M4 and the TSI Tavor. Second pic is of a real steel M4 and a real steel Tavor Link to post Share on other sites
Sayeret Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 that is indeed a very comforting picture. Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Additional Reviews! After messing around with the Tavor for more hours than my wife is happy with, i've come up with a few more things to let ya'll know about. No matter what I try to tell myself, the TSI Tavor just looks "bigger" than the real steel ones i've seen in pics. Seems a smidge longer, and "taller" in the front grip and the butt area. This may just be me and my eyes. Either way, at this point I don't care. I don't really know anyways because again, I have never actually held a RS Tavor. The gun is very comfy to shoulder. It's a bit ackward (being my first bullpup) to point it perpendicular'ish to my body because of the extra stretch. The more I aim across my body, and the tighter I get with the gun, the better it feels. I'm used to M4 style weapons, so this is a completely new experience! Also, I'm having mag issues that I am currently working out with TSI. My metal mags seem to be ok, kinda. I have a CA midcap that stays in unless I wobble it (rather briskly) side to side. After a few seconds, the mag drops out. My metal echo 1 highcap had the same problem but now, inexplicably, it works fine and doesn't come loose. The plastic Mag brand midcaps don't seem to work at all. They go in, but after just a few little wiggles, they fall right out of the gun. I'm currently talking with TSI via email about it and they are testing their guns with the same mags to find out what's up. At this point, the problem could be a few things. I'll let ya know when we narrow it down. That's it for now. Link to post Share on other sites
The Reptile House Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Any indication if the mag probs will delay further shipping? Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Any indication if the mag probs will delay further shipping? nope Link to post Share on other sites
DrKalinka Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 As long as TM mags and Magpul PMAGs work, I don't mind Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I did a bit of metal bending on the 2 metal mags, so that may have been what helped them. Plastic though...... Link to post Share on other sites
Bishamon Tiger Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 It's a pity no one else on here has reported receiving theirs, otherwise we could learn whether this is a limited problem or not. Link to post Share on other sites
X459 Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I just got my tracking number. Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Awesome!!! Great news Link to post Share on other sites
The Reptile House Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Nice one, mate. Also great to hear they're still shipping. Link to post Share on other sites
X459 Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I also have or have access to several brands of m4 mags (Magpul, TM, Echo1, G&P, Ics, etc). So When I finally get it I should be able to test several mags. Its supposed to arrive November 5th. Link to post Share on other sites
beretta Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Thanks for the info so far man. Got any info on the internals? type of gearbox? power? rate of fire? smoothness/sound ect?Any selector problems? is the mag catch as sensitive as the ares? can it be knocked as easily? Does the magazine move around in the magwell as much as the Ares? lol, sorry about all the questions, this might be on my shopping list. Link to post Share on other sites
Bishamon Tiger Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I also have or have access to several brands of m4 mags (Magpul, TM, Echo1, G&P, Ics, etc). So When I finally get it I should be able to test several mags. I thought they were doing the uber QC? Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Because I'm stipp batteryless, I can only answer some of those. Version 3 gearbox mag release is fairly heavy. You'd have to bang it pretty hard to 'accidentally' loose the mag don't know about wobble but one of my mags doesn't at all, one of them does a little, and one does a lot. Toss up Link to post Share on other sites
beretta Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 thanks man. Link to post Share on other sites
Amoki Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Also, I'm having mag issues that I am currently working out with TSI. My metal mags seem to be ok, kinda. I have a CA midcap that stays in unless I wobble it (rather briskly) side to side. After a few seconds, the mag drops out. My metal echo 1 highcap had the same problem but now, inexplicably, it works fine and doesn't come loose. The plastic Mag brand midcaps don't seem to work at all. They go in, but after just a few little wiggles, they fall right out of the gun. This sounds like a weapon locking-tab issue with the mag-catch sitting just a wee bit (like 1mm) off, and not locking into the magazine tab properly. I have the exact same problem when using STAR PMAGs (Green Label) on my JG HK416, the STAR PMAGs locking tab hole is ~1mm more to the right than my plastic MAG mag. A bit distressing though - I plan to use those plastic MAG mid-caps on my Tavor!!! If TSI doesn't do anything about it I'lll probably have to spend some sexy time with a file and 10 magazines to slowly shave off some bits... Link to post Share on other sites
Bishamon Tiger Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Given the development time, the QC and TSI's 'it has to be right' attitude, upon reflection I really think this is a one off. I do hope you get it sorted though, BK. Good to hear that TSI are providing you with after sales support. Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Though my knowledge of AEG's is limited, I think the retaining clip is in actuality sitting too high! That, or the gear box is sitting a bit low. Still fiddling with it but it seems that the mag catch isn't going in because it's catching some of the lip on the mag. I think it just needs a slight adjustment. I just need to figure out where. Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Finally decided to mess around. Here's the gun, regular TAR-21 style. sooooo hawt! Link to post Share on other sites
DrKalinka Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 You are annoying me! I want mine sooooooooo much right now... Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Lol sorry, I just love this thing and gotta share! Link to post Share on other sites
DrKalinka Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I think i know how you feel Its just the wait! Oh the wait... Link to post Share on other sites
bknewcomb Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 it'll be worth it! It really is a beautiful piece of work. Any issues at this point are minor, and some are just in the eye of the beholder. It was worth seven months. Link to post Share on other sites
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