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[sparrowOPFORCE]

Pre Order has Begun.
You can also send us your existing eag to be modified.
Come check out the new finished site at http://www.airsoftgasblowbacks.com
Pleas allow 6 to 8 weeks for completion. Full Steel internals.

Edited by sparrowOPFORCE, 23 March 2009 - 01:40 AM.

[TheMightAdam]

What are you talking about dude?

[Victory]

I'm pretty sure that Sparrow is Justin, or one of Justin's partners, from the DaytonaGun GBB Workshop, and that the news is that his new website is now open for business.

-Vic

Edited by Victory, 23 March 2009 - 03:23 AM.

[sparrowOPFORCE]

Last week on Arnie's news you will see that Daytona Gun and OPFORCE have teamed to up. We produce GBB that take AEG Mags. OPFORCE will be the distributor of Daytona Gun AK for North America and Europe. We are making a full run that is why we can offer these $1300 pieces for only 699us pre order. Thanks again..
For your viewing pleasure... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOpYwrJHNAY...player_embedded

Edited by sparrowOPFORCE, 23 March 2009 - 09:02 AM.

[uscmCorps]

Is this an authorized commercial post?

[sparrowOPFORCE]

We are a SSL Certified website. A Daytona Gun and OPFORCE collaboration.
We also want to thank Arnie's for featuring us.

Edited by sparrowOPFORCE, 23 March 2009 - 09:07 AM.

[MDK_Marshal]

He means, do you have permisison from the forum staff to post comercial stuff?

This is the first I've heard of this, so....

[Horse]

Autherized or not - this deal is too good to pass up!

Full SS "Escort" internals in a steel AK 105? I am in love! Payment sent!

[massoh2]

Does this use gas in mag system, or the outdated external rig system?

[EmptyChambers]

If by outdated, you mean vastly superior, then yes.

[sparrowOPFORCE]

There are way more advantages working with this set up. You could never get this much recoil out of a gas in the mag. You dont have to worry about cool down. You dont have to worry about refilling your mags in the middle of a game. You dont have to worry about being out gunned "for us mid cap users". Plus using this system literally scares the %$#@& out of people when you shoot at them. The system is totally updated and upgraded and is nothing like you seen before. Yes the idea of an external rig has been around for a while but some ideas are just to good to pass up. Ex. The twin turbo cars of the early 90's. They just dont make them like that anymore. We are bringing excitement and realism to the game in this recoil beast.

Edited by sparrowOPFORCE, 23 March 2009 - 10:26 PM.

[Panzergraf]

I'm very pro-rig myself, but really, external gas and gas in mag just can't be directly compared; they appeal to different people.
It's a trade-off either way.

I can certainly see the appeal of a gas-in-mag system, like WE and GHK.
Like, say, I was to attend an event with lots of role playing elements as an AK-wielding citizen of Belikistan or something, the GHK would probably be what I'd like to carry, as I wouldn't expect to shoot that many rounds (nor survive very long if I did), and an external rig would require some more equipment to carry, which would ruin the costume.

But for a more regular force-on-force game (though it still could be a milsim event) where I would have to rely on having a gun that shot BB's when and how I wanted it to and using some form of load-bearing system would be more fitting, then yes, Daytonagun (or some other external gun) all the way!


And true about scaring people, I held off a lot of badguys while defending a radio mast with my Shoei MG at Berget 6, even though my home-made magazine had jammed and no BB's came out of the muzzle (it was dark, I didn't notice it myself)


Sparrow; will there be a similar distributor for the European market?
While I have no problems buying directly from Justin (he's a great guy, really!) myself, having a more conventional webshop would attract more customers.

[sparrowOPFORCE]

Yes, http//www.airsoftgasblowbacks.com is the distributor of Daytona Gun for North America and Europe. As of now we are selling the ak. If you would like m4 or m249 cantact Justin and he will take care of you.

[LeftyFlip]

I know this probably isn't the right place, but I just had an idea that I'm not sure has been used yet. With a drum fed gun such as an m249 or an m60 (the list obviously goes on), you would have plenty of room to fit a high cap magazine as well as an airsource in the drum. That is if I'm correct that you guys are using paintball high pressure rigs, in which case that would solve the argument of external v. internal rig. Seeing as it would all be part of one system, but it would gain the positives of using a better air source. I just had that thought and had to share it.

[sparrowOPFORCE]

We use airsoft rigs (female stabilizer) paintball uses male. For your question we have thought of this but you have to keep in mind that a tank that is under pressure has to be certifeid. Plus their still wouldnt be enough room to fit everything in a box mag. If you did get everything to fit you wouldnt get more than a couple hundred rounds out of the thing. This is the best way to do this unless some magical gas is brought to us my some alien life form. lol

[galactica]

what's the chances of you guys doing a G36?

[frogfish]

Daytonagun has addressed making many more variants, there are two problems. The first and the smallest problem is a G36 polymer that is strong enough to handle the stress of the engine, which can be resolved with some tinkering. The greater problem is finding people to invest in developing the system. If your willing to invest in a custom I'm sure Dyatonagun will make one for you, just expect to pay the price of a custom and not a production model like these.

[Horse]

Exactly - Justin will do one offs in just about any chassis you want to send him. Be prepared to spend from $1K to $2K for the finished product though.

[darryl zero]

I know this probably isn't the right place, but I just had an idea that I'm not sure has been used yet. With a drum fed gun such as an m249 or an m60 (the list obviously goes on), you would have plenty of room to fit a high cap magazine as well as an airsource in the drum. That is if I'm correct that you guys are using paintball high pressure rigs, in which case that would solve the argument of external v. internal rig. Seeing as it would all be part of one system, but it would gain the positives of using a better air source. I just had that thought and had to share it.

Asahi tried it back in the day with their M249 booster mags... Two jumbo 74 gram disposable CO2 bulbs, a regulator, and ~100bbs in an M249 box mag shell. Worked to a degree, but not all that great, and cool down was still an issue... Removing the gas source from the gun and giving it a few feet of hose to act as a heat sink before it gets to the firing chamber does do a lot for pressure consistency. Plus, your mags start to get REALLY heavy with all that extra metal in 'em. I know we're supposed to be simulating the weight of real gun, but the M249 (particularly Asahi) weighs enough as is...

If you're lugging around a M60 or M249, a small hose leading to your pack is the least of your mobility worries. The benefits of running external are many, the only drawback is the tiny hose... And the only people who really think the hose is a drawback are those that have never skrimished with an external gun. Trust me, you don't notice it, and it doesn't get in the way.

[mrpugster]

great looking guns and interesting concept - actually got me thinking about GBB however not having seen any external gas rigs before it perhaps would be a good idea to show these in some pictures on your site, or even in one of the videos.