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[Horse]

I thought I would pass on some news on the latest from Sparrow and Daytonagun guru Justin.


You can now get a full wood laminated stock AK-74 GBB from www.airsoftgasblowbacks.com
News from Sparrow and Justin keeps getting better and better.

First Escort came out with a GBB AK for $2500.
Then came Daytonagun and offered his product for $1300
Then Sparrow teamed up with DG to offer full stainless steel internals in the AKS-74U, AKS-74 and AK105 platforms for $800
Now you can get full SS internals and AEG barrel compatibility in an AK-74 full stock platform.
Sparrow has also indicated that a warranty will be offered on all GBB's sold through AGBB.com When was the last time you got a warranty on your airsoft gun - let alone an Escort GBB rifle?

While I am not an AK-74 fan I do applaud the addition of this classic form to the lineup. I personally sit for hours drooling over the AK-105.

Check it out: www.airsoftgasblowbacks.com




(and NO - I do not work for DG or Sparrow - but I AM giving them my money for a 105 and I want to share the love)

[DanHS]

Hmm, looks like plans for other airsoft guns this summer are going to be scrapped, I have really wanted an external rig AK for a while, and it looks like DG is now making what I want, at a price I can justify, even if it is still $200 more than some real 5.45 AK variants.

Edited by DanHS, 05 June 2009 - 01:21 AM.

[mateba]

DG had truly blessed us with a superior system and the confidence expressed in his replicas is nothing but refreshing. I can't wait to get mine. (Figures crossed) It'll be just another two weeks. For those of you that know about CA these operate at 140PSI out of box!

[bjorn]

What kind of FPS/ROF can be achieved out of stock system?

[draco_1967]

*snip*
even if it is still $200 more than some real 5.45 AK variants.

Yes, but you can't shoot your friends with a real AK now, can you?
At least not without some negative consequences...

Judging from how other DG guns are performing, they are probably around mid-high 300's fps with upgraded aeg range.

[Marlowe]

I would love one of these (in particular the 74S to go with my Afghan VDV loadout), but the cost of setting up an external rig makes it too much to bear.

[Horse]

When I weighed the price of the external rig + AEG mags vs say a GHK + Gas in mags etc it came out 6's. Considering that the DG/Escort system can use el cheapo AEG mags when you drop or break or loose just one you are into the DG system less money than the GHK.

So - for me it is the best "bang for the buck" that I could find to compliment my real steel guns.

[my_plague_666]

Judging from how other DG guns are performing, they are probably around mid-high 300's fps with upgraded aeg range.

the FPS is pretty much proportional to the PSI you have the regulator set to adjustable FPS FTW.
and IIRC DG was supplying his AKs with 2 recoil springs, one for high ROF and one for lower ROF and more kick. check his youtube vids for an estimate

soo tempting. $800 is a fair whack, but it's pretty cheap considering what it is i guess. it's a real shame i just cant justify that kind of money at the moment (and probably for the foreseeable future if i cant get a better job)

[snorkelman]

I wouldnt over-egg the variable FPS its more than just a case of opening a regulator and swapping out a spring - you've got a balancing act to be aware of - reliable cycling dictating how low you can go and increased need for maintenance if you push it too high.

Like everything else in life the guns themselves are a compromise, they're definately worth a look (esp with some of the changes Justin has implemented) if they tick the boxes you want (and you can live without the boxes they dont), but they arent going to be everyones cup of tea

Far as powering them goes, in the UK these days as often as not you'll need an HPA rig (as CO2 is a lot more difficult to bulk source than it used to be)

Scuba tank, fill station adapter, decent HPA bottle with regulator, decent secondary regulator, hoses and connectors budget best part of 350 to 400 sterling if you're buying that stuff new.

On plus side if its all new you should have best part of five years 'in test' lifespan before anything needs hydrotested and once its bought n paid for your running costs are going to be minimal. I can get a 12litre fabre tank filled for 4 quid and thats enough air to provide for tens of thousands of rounds. For one gas gun it can be expensive but if you've got a few of them they can all make use of that one universal rig

[DanHS]

I already have an HPA tank and a couple CO2 tanks, and a Palmers Stabilizer, so all I need is a remote line and a couple connectors to get an external rig gun going, and I already have a mess of AK mags, so it makes sense to me since I was planning on just building another AEG at about the same price point. It is tempting to ask him to build me an RPK, but the cost would probably be very high, so I think I will stick with building an AEG RPK for now, gas RPK can come in the future when I actually do have a disposable income, instead of putting money that really should go into other things into airsoft.

[happy.al]

I would love a rpk too, or a svd. I think if we could get Justin to make enough then the price would be similar, we'd need to ask Sparrow to arrange it.

He says they even do a payment plan to spread the payments.

[mcnuggets]

PPS Stabilizer is a bit on the high end. If going HPA it isn't absolutely necessary.

[Horse]

Justin has already indicated that he would LOVE to do an SVD provided there is enough interest. The one main problem with that is that he always makes sure to comply with all local laws etc. He does not produce a gun that shoots over 1J. Yes I know we crank them up to 140 PSI and they are fine, but they are originally 80ish psi guns IIRC.

But you KNOW I would love to have one anyway!!!
(well - that or an FAL. . .)

[Horse]

I just found out that when you buy the gun from Sparrow you have to pay shipping.

Nothing new here right? Wrong.
Sparrow pays the international priority shipping to the US and then you pay domestic shipping to your house.

This is GREAT news for those in the US getting these guns.

[draco_1967]

I am very impressed with Sparrow and DG's customer support. Sparrow is always quick to answer questions and do whatever he can to give the best product.

I can't wait for mine to arrive!

[Horse]

FYI - I just recieved my DG AK - review to follow . . .

[GaMeFrEAK1018]

FYI - I just recieved my DG AK - review to follow . . .

Mine just made it to the U.S. shores. Can't WAIT for it to be delivered.

What're your initial impressions?