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[yehaw]

Here they are ...

[Lax]

Any other details ? Two valves ? Wrong trades ?
Seems odd

[-=OGGY=-]

it's about time; to bad they will probably suck....

Edited by -=OGGY=-, 05 June 2009 - 07:55 PM.

[yehaw]

only 1 fill valve, at the bottom of the mag.

my guess is, the screw below the release valve is for adjusting the gas output.


i don't have any further details, sorry.

[Kalmar]

it's about time; to bad they will probably suck....

Depending on price.. we shall see. I'd like to know how they are internally more comparable to WA or GHK? We need more pics!

[rws591]

Indeed, what set these apart from those that are already out? Coming from Inokatsu I would suspect they are going to be expesnive, but what will make them better?

My lord those pictures were huge...

[Kalmar]

One close observation is the lack of any roll pins punched all along the mag shell - only a single set screw near the strike valve. This leads me to suspect a separate internal gas chamber similar to the GHK rather than a WA type design utilizing the shell as a reservoir itself.

[Forze]

i think these are the ebaybanned ones

[Kalmar]

i think these are the ebaybanned ones

These are obviously not WA copies like the AGM's, are you telling me the Chinese actually developed something on their own?

[yehaw]

i think these are the ebaybanned ones

nope .. the one on ebaybanned was the 18$ AGM mag which looks different.

( http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...t=0&start=0 )

[monksavage]

When will somebody bring out some WE M4 mags?

[rws591]

One close observation is the lack of any roll pins punched all along the mag shell - only a single set screw near the strike valve. This leads me to suspect a separate internal gas chamber similar to the GHK rather than a WA type design utilizing the shell as a reservoir itself.

Would this leave it more susceptible to the elements? Thus adversely effecting it in cold weather?

[Kalmar]

Would this leave it more susceptible to the elements? Thus adversely effecting it in cold weather?

Theoretically it would be more insulated, which isn't exactly a good thing considering it will be more prone to the effects of cool down. Would also prevent you from wrapping hand warmers all over it in the winter. On the plus side, the mag shell itself is just a shell and not an integral part of the gas system. Therefore you have a more robust design and the possibility to swap out mag shells (Pmags!)

[rws591]

Oh PMags, the one thing holding me back from getting a GBBR.

[hitmanNo2]

Oh PMags, the one thing holding me back from getting a GBBR.

Pick up a WA/G&P/AGM and you can run Pmags (with a bit of effort...)

[Kalmar]

Oh PMags, the one thing holding me back from getting a GBBR.

Myself and others are currently working on transferring our GHK internals into real Pmag shells. Someone else has already done the same with a PTS shell:

[Kalmar]

[rws591]

Kalmar, god among men.

[tanpanther]

What's up with the 20rd VN mag? (inokatsu website has those pics of Ino M4 with VN mag) I know ProWin is making VN mags, but it's better to have other choices, and beside ProWin said they are limited, not sure if i can grab enough of those mags.

[The Thief Lord]

What's up with the 20rd VN mag? (inokatsu website has those pics of Ino M4 with VN mag) I know ProWin is making VN mags, but it's better to have other choices, and beside ProWin said they are limited, not sure if i can grab enough of those mags.

IIRC those were going to be produced, but were later stopped because they couldn't manufacture them or something, they got held back and shipping the INO AR's without mags.