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[RUSHER2]

HuricanE is coming out with new Kimber SIS 1911 conversion kit. SIS (Special Investigation Section is special elite undercover unit of LAPD). With thanks to Whistler for details:

HurricanE new SIS conversion kit is based on Marui MEU pistol.
The SIS conversion kit included:
Aluminum Slide & Frame
Stainless steel chamber & out barrel
Steel SIS style rear sight & front sight
Upgrade recoil spring
Steel magazine catch
Steel slide stop
Kimber laminated grip
Solid aluminum match grade trigger
Will coming out in middle of July of 2009











Source: airsoftnews.eu

[RacingManiac]

Sounds expensive...lol

I wish they make something else like this....not a fan of the SIS model at all...

[fiddlesticks4220]

Orly, Anyone wana buy my nova kimber kit>

[davedawg123]

Sounds expensive...lol

lol. It does indeed. Might be reasonable if under $350 but I'd seriously doubt it.

[snowman]

(Special Investigation Section is special elite undercover unit of LAPD)

How undercover can you be if you have a special gun?

Cheers.

Edited by snowman, 16 June 2009 - 07:11 AM.

[Xsjado]

How undercover can you be if you have a special gun?

Cheers.

I was wondering that. Its a bit of a give away.

[chris u'5]

It's definitely a very unique looking pistol.
A bit more info for those not that familiar with the gun...

http://www.kimberamerica.com/pistols/sis/

[renegadecow]

How undercover can you be if you have a special gun?

Duct tape on the slide serrations and you'll blend right in with the 1911 crowd.

[Crimson]

if your undercover then they wont know your a cop and wont see your weapon right ?

Not unless your deep undercover

[fiddlesticks4220]

? Civi's can buy the SIS model but it was designed for police.

[chris u'5]

There's a civilian and police version.

[slu]

I don't care too much for this particular piece (just my opinion, but the serrations kill it), but it's cool that they're doing what appears to be a complete conversion, even down to the grips.

Though I wish they'd start using an denser aluminum alloy. All these 6061/7075 kits look great, but they just lack "heft" when you pick it up. The investment shouldn't be too much more if all you need are harder bits on CNC machines to make steel kits.

Edited by slu, 16 June 2009 - 11:55 PM.

[fiddlesticks4220]

Their are 4 SIS models link to the LE model?

[RacingManiac]

I don't care too much for this particular piece (just my opinion, but the serrations kill it), but it's cool that they're doing what appears to be a complete conversion, even down to the grips.

Though I wish they'd start using an denser aluminum alloy. All these 6061/7075 kits look great, but they just lack "heft" when you pick it up. The investment shouldn't be too much more if all you need are harder bits on CNC machines to make steel kits.

Aluminum alloy are the same density, the word you are looking for is denser material....

[slu]

Aluminum alloy are the same density, the word you are looking for is denser material....

I meant, by mixing in more of a denser element you can achieve a denser alloy. As I know it, an alloy is not purely one element, and hence the density of an alloy depends on it's composition.

Edited by slu, 17 June 2009 - 01:06 AM.

[RacingManiac]

Its alloy at a molecular level, 6061, 7075, 2024...etc are all references to the alloying element used, but the percentage is extremely small but enough to modify the property....it is still primarily aluminum....

Pure aluminum is rarely used anyway, the aluminum as we know is all some type of alloy...

[slu]

Its alloy at a molecular level, 6061, 7075, 2024...etc are all references to the alloying element used, but the percentage is extremely small but enough to modify the property....it is still primarily aluminum....

Pure aluminum is rarely used anyway, the aluminum as we know is all some type of alloy...

How about some mixture of aluminum with a denser element, where the mass fraction of the denser component is not negligible? I'm no metallurgist, but I'm sure Wiki will support me when I say there exist alloys that have something like 20% mass fraction of the "alloying element," which I would claim is not trace or negligible. If for some reason it doesn't exist, dare I imagine such a thing? Maybe it doesn't have a number assigned to it, but would it still be an "alloy of aluminum"?

Regardless, as we drift further off topic, maybe I should just say "I'd like them to make it heavier."

Edited by slu, 17 June 2009 - 01:39 AM.

[RacingManiac]

Pot metal is heavier....but not many wants those either.....

The issue is that its not just weight, 6061 and 7075 are also what I'd consider as engineering material, they have the strength to take some beating. A lot of the WE and the some Japan OEM uses heavier zinc alloy to get the weight and feel of the gun, but just as many people have found out, they are weak and will often break just like plastic slide.

There are shops that makes kit just for the heavier kits, brass, bronze kits aren't THAT unusual in some WA 1911(TM system supposedly not so great running heavier moving parts), but knowing the material it is likely not that robust, but the main market for those are collectors.

They can like you say, just make it out of steel, while the tool path might be the same, the more expensive tool bits and longer machining time might mean much more expensive product because not as many people might be willing to pay for a steel kit(especially when not many are willing to buy more expensive kit like Nova or PGC as it is).

Edited by RacingManiac, 17 June 2009 - 02:40 AM.

[MCXL]

Ra tech is releasing a steel slide for the system 7 USP. that heavy enough for ya?

[snowman]

Off topic, but there's a steel slide for the TM Glock 17.

Cheers.