Frontiers Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Damn forums...lost my long post, here is short version, new factory in China called JM released 2 models so far http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=produ...product_id=3833 - KAC PDW new one not same as DBOYS if you look carefully you can see difference in detail http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=produ...product_id=3804 - M4A1 GAS tomorrow i should get more info about this factory now know the name already helps in searching it. Link to post Share on other sites
chownsy Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Damn forums...lost my long post, here is short version, new factory in China called JM released 2 models so far http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=produ...product_id=3833 - KAC PDW new one not same as DBOYS if you look carefully you can see difference in detail http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=produ...product_id=3804 - M4A1 GAS tomorrow i should get more info about this factory now know the name already helps in searching it. nice news that is also look at the KAC PDW, it comes with 2 internal barrels and a short/long extension Link to post Share on other sites
mysl1 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Frontiers tell your friends that we need replica ANVIS mounts/nvg's and Low Profile Battery Packs Link to post Share on other sites
DamnLion Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 ahhh, so THIS is who makes the metal ACM M4 RIS everyone's got their panties in a bunch over. interesting.. now we have AGM, JM, and JG. and that KAC PDW has full trades and comes with a PEQ replica/rail covers? win. Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 it ought to be pointed out that that PEQ is monstrous and fugly - a PEQ15 should be substituted immediately. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Looks good, but as stated, a common peq is too big for it and a PEQ15 (KA sized) would have been a better choice Anyway, the more factories, the more competition, hope the quality is good enough to compete Link to post Share on other sites
Kye Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Hmmm, more chance to get a cheaper L1A1 SLR. Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyJ Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 let's hope they take a path less taken and do some new guns nobody else has done. Otherwise if they are gonna be releasing the same stuff everybody else does then they better get their QC good. Link to post Share on other sites
cazboab Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 What puts me off WE M4s is that its not what everyone else has done, the WE uses its own mags and nobody else's, where the majority of the others use WA-compatable mags that could be picked and chosen from to find the best mags or loaned to gbbr wielding team mates- unless said team mate has a KJ or WE... Conversely I really hope any other AKs don't copy the ghk, so the gun will stop firing when its out of bbs. Its hard to know what should be the same and what should be different when doing the same gun, but if you do a totaly new gun(IE not an M4 in a new dress) then you need to work out how to get it right from scratch and I'm not sure a new company will be able to do that first time. Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I would be ALL about a GBB G3A3! Or a GBB FAL! Link to post Share on other sites
DamnLion Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 What puts me off WE M4s is that its not what everyone else has done, the WE uses its own mags and nobody else's, where the majority of the others use WA-compatable mags that could be picked and chosen from to find the best mags or loaned to gbbr wielding team mates- unless said team mate has a KJ or WE... Conversely I really hope any other AKs don't copy the ghk, so the gun will stop firing when its out of bbs. Its hard to know what should be the same and what should be different when doing the same gun, but if you do a totaly new gun(IE not an M4 in a new dress) then you need to work out how to get it right from scratch and I'm not sure a new company will be able to do that first time. who said anything about a WE M4 or GHK AK? the M4 posted is a 'JM' WA clone. Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlesticks4220 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I agree that was totally random an weirds me out. Link to post Share on other sites
DEVILHUNTER Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 We need more info about this M4! Is the buffer tube thread WA compatible? Are the rest of the gun WA compatible? Link to post Share on other sites
Frakk2k Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Probably same as JG/AGM and whatnot, I am guessing WA compatible. Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Probably same as JG/AGM and whatnot, I am guessing WA compatible. its WA clone, i posted earlier but forums acted strange and my post disappeared Link to post Share on other sites
Erik Cartman Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Damn forums...lost my long post, here is short version, new factory in China called JM released 2 models so far http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=produ...product_id=3833 - KAC PDW new one not same as DBOYS if you look carefully you can see difference in detail http://www.rsov.com/index.php?target=produ...product_id=3804 - M4A1 GAS tomorrow i should get more info about this factory now know the name already helps in searching it. Anyone actually handled an ACM PDW? Is it any better then the one by DBoy? I see there's an extra inner barrel and rail covers included in the package. Link to post Share on other sites
alston251 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I have been told by my local retailer that the new GBB M4 have lighter mags than the AGM. It also has solved all the problems of the AGM M4. He said he have had no mags unable to bolt lock after more than 1000 rounds. Also bbs don't roll out the barrel. Hop doesn't need to be replaced and the bolt head is constructed of better plastic than the AGM. It is metal bodied. But the finishing isn't as good as the AGM. That's all i know Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 If this lot make anything new, i.e. non-*generic Americanski assault rifle* then i may be interested in what they have to offer. But if it is just the same as everyone else i say why bother. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
-Angel- Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Lets be realistic here, its a factory in china, producing clones of clones... if you're expecting anything 'original' you're going to be disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites
Erik Cartman Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Lets be realistic here, its a factory in china, producing clones of clones... if you're expecting anything 'original' you're going to be disappointed. Well, something cheap yet well built would be sufficient for me. I have 3 A&Ks and they are all pretty good. While my G&G L85A2 isn't exactly reliable. Link to post Share on other sites
-Angel- Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I'm replying to fireknife. He seems to be wanting something new from this factory, which is highly unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 new factory is always good. As always frontiers brings good news. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 In response to Angel. JLS is all i can say. China factory, first to churn out SCAR / FN2000 / RX4. I mean why do most of the China factories churn out Armashites all the time, why not the odd Type 89 or even something new altogether, it is not impossible, even something like the Vz.58 built around an AK GB and bits. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Whats with the JM pdw is it better than the D-boy one, and whats the klash PDW about ? (is it a re branded PDW? ) Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Dont forget the Masada or the MP40. CA, G&P and all the others started off cloning Marui's stuff. It takes companies a while to get comfortable and start risking. As far as I know STAR and VFC are the only companies that started with their own designs. Link to post Share on other sites
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