mikoyan99 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Now i've nearly finished my type-100 (the last bit is in the post), I want to have a go at another pacific theatre weapon, the Owen gun. Known for its reliability, if not its accuracy, the owen was a very popular weapon with troops and served with the Australian army up until the Vietnam war, when it was eventually replaced with the F1, based on the british sterling. I'll be scratch building the owen, to keep cost down. I will be using a modified AK hop up and barrel, aluminium tubing, steel plate, an AEP gearbox, and Mp40 or Uzi magazines. It will be held together using high strength glues, and bolts where required or possible. As I lack a decent workshop, the emphasis will be on producing a working gun rather than a 100% accurate replica, so concessions will have to be made on various things to make them either possible or strong enough; sometimes cost will be a deciding factor as well. This is the basic plan: As you can see, the forward pistol grip is from an ak and the rear the lower receiver from an M93R; using the receiver is a necessity, to save production time and to help mount the gearbox in the correct place. I will be disguising it as much as possible throughout the build. So far, i've built the hop up and started chopping the tubing i'm using for the reciver. The AEP parts are on their way, kindly donated by a member or arnie's airsoft. The hop up was a simple job - I inverted the barrel in the hop unit so the hole in the barrel was at the top. I then drilled a small hole just forwards of the feed nozzel asnd insterted a rubber tipped screw; carefully adjusting this screw allows for a hop-up similair to the original. regards, -Matt Link to post Share on other sites
fingertwister Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Mikoyan, I have attached the take down info for my Owen gun if this gives you any help. Good luck with it. They really look mint when out skirmishing....especially the looks from those less knowledgable, wondering what it is your aiming at them. Owen_Gun_Disassembly.pdf Link to post Share on other sites
Burke Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 wow who made the custom owen? Link to post Share on other sites
mikoyan99 Posted January 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Cheers for the info fingertwister, much appreciated. The main problem i'm having at the moment is finding a piece of box section the right size - it needs, ideally, to be 1mm thick, 25mm wide and about 40mm long. Faling that, an SMG mag well would work; has anyone got any sources for any of those? cheers, -Matt Link to post Share on other sites
Bane Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Go to an engineering shop, or a furniture place, pick up some 1" square furniture steel tubing, its square tube so just cut the top off it, its normally about 1-1.2mm thickness, and engineering shops have plenty of offcuts Link to post Share on other sites
fingertwister Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 wow who made the custom owen? Made by two wizards in NZ who can do things that I find impossible. (i.e. build anything of acceptable quality). Link to post Share on other sites
Bane Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Made by two wizards in NZ who can do things that I find impossible. (i.e. build anything of acceptable quality). Country pride, right there Sorry, shameless i know. I do know the two who built it though, they gave me some pointers on my browning build Link to post Share on other sites
Kenworth W900 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 1" aluminium square tube, 997mm long, 1.5mm thick wall. I've sent you the link Miko. Link to post Share on other sites
mikoyan99 Posted January 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 And received I've just ordered an Mp40 mag well, but i'm thinking of building two if the first goes well so i'll probably pick that up as well. -Matt Link to post Share on other sites
mikoyan99 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Some progress: Obviously theres a slight problem with the magazine placement - but it's only about 1" further back than it's meant to be, so i'm too really worried, although this may not end up as a perfect replica. Epoxy is to hold the barrel and hope in place. Don't ask about the sign, it turned up randomly the other day from who knows where. -Matt Link to post Share on other sites
X Lupin Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 The Kuwait air force is going to be unstoppable now! Also, as for it being 1" back, I would suggest flipping the magazine around, so that the nozzle is on the side closest to the operator. That should sneak you just about an inch forward. This can be done by simply cutting up the Mp40 magwell a bit and reversing the mag catch. Link to post Share on other sites
mikoyan99 Posted January 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Mp40's have "reversed" magazines already - so the front of the magazine will be in line with the front of the hop. I just tested it, and it works, which is a bonus -Matt Link to post Share on other sites
mikoyan99 Posted January 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Started work on the reciver and stock. It's all a bit rough and ready, but it is working now. The gun takes a mini 7.2V battery in the stock, with the wires running through the receiver. The Lower receiver will be enlarged and neatened up a little using epoxy. Major bits still to do are the magazine well, outer barrel and forward pistol grip. regards, -Matt Link to post Share on other sites
mikoyan99 Posted January 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 More progress: Mag well attached, but holes need filling with more resin and bolts need to be added for strength. Not much more to do now . -Matt Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Looking good! Care to elaborate on the hop chamber though? I'm perplexed with that one. And toss the AK grip. Just whittle down a piece of wood to shape. Link to post Share on other sites
mikoyan99 Posted January 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 The hop chamber is dead simple - it's an AK hop, turned upside down. The regular hop mechanism is removed, but the rubber is left in place. The barrel is inverted in the hop, so the hole is the same side as the feed nozzle. After careful measuring, a 2mm hole was drilled above this, then a self tapping screw was put through to thread it. The point was cut off of the same screw, which was filed flat. A small piece of rubber was glued where the point had been cut off. The whole assembly screws into the hole, and turing the screw up or down adjusts the hop. On a less cheerful note, I test the gun this morning with an 8.4v stick battery, and blue smoke appeared, so something has gone. Hopefully it's my soldering, but more likely it seems it's something in the gearbox, which will be a PITA to replace. -Matt Tried again with the 7.2v mini and it's working. I'll check carefully for shorts, but hopefully i've got away with it. -Matt Link to post Share on other sites
go47 Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Wow that looks like utter poo +1 for the attempt though Link to post Share on other sites
mikoyan99 Posted January 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 I'll take that highly constructive critisiscm on an unfinished gun when you produce something better. -Matt Link to post Share on other sites
fossilfuel Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Looking good. Your hop is ingeniously simple! Can't wait for the finished product. Link to post Share on other sites
mikoyan99 Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Thankyou - I did finish it - kind of. I'd nearly completed all of the externals when I decided to put a few mags through to test everything was working correctly. It was fine for the first 10 or so shots, then the trigger contacts went. I had to rip the gun open (no mean feat at that point) and repair them, which I duly did. I then tested it again, and the gears stripped. I can only guess that the 7.2v mini was too powerful, and the internals just tore themselves apart. Too disheartened to continue, i've taken all of the useable internals out for future projects. I bolted the gun back together (wouthout using any more filler, or sanding etc), and gave it a very rough paint job to see how it would have looked and felt, which is surprisingly good (although a better paint job would be required.) I'm going to keep it now as a wall hanger, but I may sell it on in future if anyone is interested - it could be made to work with the some dedication. Thanks to everyone who helped with parts, regards, -Matt Link to post Share on other sites
go47 Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Looks just like i pictured that it would. Link to post Share on other sites
mikoyan99 Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Hardly surprising, seeing as all I did since you last commented was add the barrel and pistol grip. Do you really think i'm going to bother finishing the externals on a broken gun? You're entitled to your opinion, but personally i'm happy with the externals of the gun. I don't mind constructive critisiscm, but your posts do smack of trolling. -Matt Link to post Share on other sites
go47 Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Moan all you want, but Its still just a aep glock with a mp40 barrel and magwell glued onto it. you didnt even bother making a proper frontgrip for it, and hacked up a vsr for the stock. Look at it man - it was a good idea but jesus crist i made better things when i was 10 Link to post Share on other sites
mikoyan99 Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 I never claimed it was anything else - the whole point was to make it for the lowest possible budget, using bits I had lying around at home. I never claimed it was going to be a perfect replica, in fact if you had have bothered reading the posts you might have realised that. I really can't understand where you're coming from on this i'm afraid, and like I keep saying, it isn't finished. Regardless, I simply don't have the time to waste to continue arguing with you so unless you've got something useful to add, please don't bother posting here again. -Matt Link to post Share on other sites
BFOUR Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Moan all you want, but Its still just a aep glock with a mp40 barrel and magwell glued onto it. you didnt even bother making a proper frontgrip for it, and hacked up a vsr for the stock. Look at it man - it was a good idea but jesus crist i made better things when i was 10 IS that not what custom is? When I looked at this in the beginning It looked like ######, Now it looks good. Not my taste but to each his own and I think he did a great job on it. Can we some of your custom work perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites
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