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How to fit a doctor sight to a TM Glock 17


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That should be nominated for the 'best how to of the year!' ;)

 

Well done for doing the work & producing something that should help others. Excellent.

 

& you are right, no one thinks they sound like they do. :D

 

I mean, take me: I think I sound like some '70's porn star but in reality, it's more like a spitting image puppet. :o

 

 

Greg.

 

PS, before some one else asks, why did you remove the barrel & blowback unit?

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To be honest, that doesn't look good at all.

Having the on/off switch and part of the Docter hanging out behind the slide like that isn't neat at all. The overall look of the gun is ruined by it since the real Trijicon Docter sight haven't got an on/off switch. It should look something more like this. Also, a real Docter Glock mount won't set you back a fortune. Although the real deal might not fit the Marui Glocks due to the oddly constructed slide, but then all you need to do is get a KSC Glock.

 

On the bright side: A functional, cheap modification which will suit some. The only problem I foresee is getting hold of replacement rear sights when one gets tired of the night sights.

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Also, a real Docter Glock mount won't set you back a fortune. Although the real deal might not fit the Marui Glocks due to the oddly constructed slide, but then all you need to do is get a KSC Glock.

 

so, all you have to do to mount this to a TM glock is buy a real sight mount, and then buy a KSC glock to mount it to.

 

much cheapness indeed ;)

 

nice work, crimson :)

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I think its a nice option if someone wants a cheap option to mount a doctor style sight but there is one potencial problem which is the rear sight. The rear sight sight is made of plastic and i have heard some reports (happened to myself as well) that it will most likely crack around the screw thread. So i'm looking for updates regarding this.

 

Personally i would get the Airsoft Surgeon mount for the TM G17 but thanks for the excellent guide and video Crimson.

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Thanks guys !

 

i used this today

 

I did not superglue mine on ok ! i fired 10 mags, it got shot and it fell of a truck !

 

Not even damaged ! the screws on their own held it on i was planing on thread locking it

 

To the other guys ! this is a guide for TM glocks not ksc, mounts for real steal you linked is $65 thats already too much, point of this is simple and cheep !

 

Greg- to make it easier to what i was doing you can see it better

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the guide isnt do this to your glock its this is how you would do it if you wanted to

 

i have Trijicon night sights on all my ksc but you cant do that for TMs

 

this is an alternative to the TM night sights without spending super duper loads of cash

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Having a rather heavy sight secured by a tiny plastic dovetail seems like it's going to end in tears sooner or later.

 

More importantly, however, I genuinely couldn't watch that video all the way through because the music was so incredibly irritating.

Either have a loud musical soundtrack and then superimpose the information as on-screen text or have quiet background music with narration over it.

Having loud music fading in and out with a quiet narrative is incredibly bloody annoying because it means I have to keep turning the sound up and down.

 

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Having a rather heavy sight secured by a tiny plastic dovetail seems like it's going to end in tears sooner or later.

 

More importantly, however, I genuinely couldn't watch that video all the way through because the music was so incredibly irritating.

Either have a loud musical soundtrack and then superimpose the information as on-screen text or have quiet background music with narration over it.

Having loud music fading in and out with a quiet narrative is incredibly bloody annoying because it means I have to keep turning the sound up and down.

 

you under estimate how light the doctor is ! because its at the back not front it does nothing to the guns function

 

Noted thanks i will do that for the next video !

 

I like that song so much i guess i did it for myself really :(

 

ile have the next video run constantly low and throw the voice over it

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Why is no-one from Sweden interested unless it's either expensive or unnecessary? :rolleyes: Systema PTW's much, I wonder?

 

I think it's a great mod, and an awesome video (although you did spell 'Mount' wrong in one of the captions near the start - you spelt it 'Mouint' ;)).

 

Ben.

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Why is no-one from Sweden interested unless it's either expensive or unnecessary? :rolleyes: Systema PTW's much, I wonder?

 

I think it's a great mod, and an awesome video (although you did spell 'Mount' wrong in one of the captions near the start - you spelt it 'Mouint' ;)).

 

Ben.

 

 

lol yeah i just realised that too bad its done now i cant replace the videos i have to delete them and re add it and it takes 3 hours to upload

 

Mouint lol i cant spell

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FWIW (and I don't know if you mentioned this in the latter part of the video), it's possible you've stumbled across an additional benefit here.

 

By drilling through the dovetail and then fitting screws into it you are, effectively, forcing the dovetail mount to bite against the slide more firmly and that can only be a good thing.

 

Worst thing about fitting any kind of optic to a pistol is that unless you can find a suitable holster for it, it's only ever going to be a novelty or, at best, for use with a race gun IMO.

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FWIW (and I don't know if you mentioned this in the latter part of the video), it's possible you've stumbled across an additional benefit here.

 

By drilling through the dovetail and then fitting screws into it you are, effectively, forcing the dovetail mount to bite against the slide more firmly and that can only be a good thing.

 

Worst thing about fitting any kind of optic to a pistol is that unless you can find a suitable holster for it, it's only ever going to be a novelty or, at best, for use with a race gun IMO.

 

i dont know what you mean by that statement ? all i know is i used my pistol all day and didnt have any problems :)

 

watch the video to the end stealth you will see in it my blackhawlk level 1 serpa ! at 4.29 ;)

 

http://www.blackhawk.com/catalog/Standard-Molded,32.htm

 

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Thanks for the comments guys uploading the new video now as per stealth and L4byr1nths comments

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Worst thing about fitting any kind of optic to a pistol is that unless you can find a suitable holster for it, it's only ever going to be a novelty or, at best, for use with a race gun IMO.

The other downside is increased slide weight and as a result, increased gas usage per shot, for such a small sight it should at least be a minimal increase in gas usage though.

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i dont know what you mean by that statement ? all i know is i used my pistol all day and didnt have any problems :)

You know how a rawlplug (or rawlbolt) works, right?

As you tighten the screw into the middle of it the plug splits apart and grips more and more tightly into the wall, or whatever it's fitted into.

 

I suspect something similar will be happening when you fit the sight into the modified dovetail mount.

I think the 2 screws through the sight will be applying a bit of force to the dovetail mount and causing it to grip more tightly onto the slot in the slide.

That should help the sight stay firmly in place better than it otherwise might.

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i just thought that the mount screw holds it on because its also the screw that holds the blowback unit on if that screw fails the whole gun stops working so i assume thats why TM re enforced the sights , i guess you could be right about the width of the filed down rear sight

 

Uploading the new version now estimate is 3 hours more !

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To be honest, that doesn't look good at all.

Having the on/off switch and part of the Docter hanging out behind the slide like that isn't neat at all. The overall look of the gun is ruined by it since the real Trijicon Docter sight haven't got an on/off switch. It should look something more like this. Also, a real Docter Glock mount won't set you back a fortune. Although the real deal might not fit the Marui Glocks due to the oddly constructed slide, but then all you need to do is get a KSC Glock.

On the bright side: A functional, cheap modification which will suit some. The only problem I foresee is getting hold of replacement rear sights when one gets tired of the night sights.

 

You may not like the look of that little switch but as you correctly identified, this is not a real doctor. It could be mounted more discreetly else where. This mod was done for practical airsoft reasons, not as a look-a-like. Cheap, replica Docters, without the switch are available.

 

You have also correctly identified that this is an extremely cheap alternative to the real thing. Total expense here is around £20. A real doctor & mount is what???????? :o

 

i don't really trust a site that's force threaded into a plastic base not to fly off whilst firing.

 

Having a rather heavy sight secured by a tiny plastic dovetail seems like it's going to end in tears sooner or later.

 

Although I threaded mine with a tap, I've run this rig for over a year, no probs. This particular sight weighs grams, adding less weight to the slide that say a metal slide. Mine gets a fair amount of use & shows no sign of 'flying off'. It's a real cheap way to RD a glock, if you fancy that sort of thing.

 

 

Nah, i would buy Trijicon night sights instead.

 

 

Although working in both light & dark conditions, this is not aimed as a 'night sight'. It's an RD, allowing a 'both eye' shooting style.

 

 

Greg.

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I lowered the music in the new video

 

lol i noticed the spelling mistake i cant be bothered, this was just a video to learn new adobe skills thats all

 

The next video will do exactly the same i will learn new styles

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It's Docter, with an E, when will you guys learn? God...

 

 

Too bad that i can't hear anything of what you're saying because of the loud music...

Learn? Learn?

 

Blimey mate, you could do with a lesson in criticism. :D

 

 

Greg.

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