MagPul PTS MASADA ACR

[AnakChan]

AnakChan-

 

What are the numbers on the other Magpul PTS Masada/ACR (in FDE) that you got?

 

Yours is 1166..........mine is 1170

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hahhha, AnakChan mine is FDE 1165!! Just the one before yours!! Such a coincidence..

 

I grabbed two of the MASADA from Anak, the second one for a Japanese friend of mine. It is SN 1105 - FDE.

 

sacairsoftsn00py/Decurion,

 

Aside from dStole's and mine, the other SN's are 1102, 1032, 1017. All 5xFDE versions are from AirsoftGlobal. Where did you get yours? Numbers seem all over the place. I would have thought PTS would distribute sequential numbers to the same retailer.

 

I've not opened mine up yet, but can you see if it's a standard AEG wiring (esp with the microswitch, etc?). I'm wondering if I can throw in an intelligent FET into there - have a spare AWS Scorpion .

Edited August 24, 2010 by AnakChan

[GingaNinga]

"My point was that AOE can't eliminate the possibility of premature engagement. It's a different issue."

 

Man, I wish someone had told me this years ago. Ever since a very horrible incident as a teen I have been trying every angle of engagement I can think of to eliminate premature...oh, engagement. Forget it.

[uscmCorps]

Numbers seem all over the place. I would have thought PTS would distribute sequential numbers to the same retailer.

Between the units getting shuffled at the factory coupled with slight randomness when they're pulled off the wooden palates from the warehouse and passed onto the retailers, these things are generally randomly numbered. When I got mine I accepted that my serial number would be whatever I got. They really only paid attention to certain lots when they were spec'ed (weaker springs) for resale in certain destination countries.

[sacairsoftsn00py]

"My point was that AOE can't eliminate the possibility of premature engagement. It's a different issue."

 

Man, I wish someone had told me this years ago. Ever since a very horrible incident as a teen I have been trying every angle of engagement I can think of to eliminate premature...oh, engagement. Forget it.

 

Actually, AOE can eliminate the possibility of premature engagement depending on the battery/gear set that you're using. Adjusting the AOE helps heaps for typical 30 round per second setups granted that everything else checks out...But yeah...I'll drop the technicalities on things. I see what you're saying how AOE will not eliminate all the posibility of having premature engagement. You stick a car battery in the gun and adjusting the AOE will not solve premature engagement

 

http://www.zeroin.co.uk/showthread.php?t=9251

 

Just in case someone else is interested in what we are discussing

 

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Another nit-pickiness from me and my buddy Sacair Dagger...

 

He noticed that the hop unit is also slightly canted to the right. It's not exactly at the 12 o'clock position.

 

Still the hooking some people MAY experience would probably because of the hop/inner barrel being very slightly turned over to the right. Very easy to remedy however as I had gone over the steps a few pages back.

 

Also, I was wondering if there's going to be corresponding serial numbers for the Black and FDE versions. That is, I'm wondering if someone has the black 1170 Magpul PTS Masada ACR (as I have the 1170 FDE colored one).

[Sacair Dagger]

Snoopy, Hey was just going through my parts box and saw some Outer Barrel Shims. Is there a way to shim the outer barrel forward causing more tension on the locking lug / lever??? That may solve any wobble issues with certian ACR's. Works great on standard Delta Rings / OB's. Just a thought.

 

For the guys having problems with their hop not providing enough hop. If you can get your hands on the Guarder 50% Clear Bucking, get one. They are GOLD!!! Like Snoop said, you will have to trim about 1mm off the length on the muzzle end of the bucking so it will fit.

 

I should have my ARC in a few weeks.

[sacairsoftsn00py]

With the Guarder Clear Hop Bucking....this is how far my hop dial is set to for Toytec .25g BBs (with my gun shooting at 340 FPS with .20g BBs).

 

 

This also shows how much more hop I can put behind a bb (for heavier weights). I'm thinking that I have enough hop for .30g BBs.

 

 

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Dagger-

 

Me thinks the locking piece of the outer barrel is a bit larger in diameter for them shims to work

[uscmCorps]

Also, I was wondering if there's going to be corresponding serial numbers for the Black and FDE versions. That is, I'm wondering if someone has the black 1170 Magpul PTS Masada ACR (as I have the 1170 FDE colored one).

I believe the serial numbers are unique. You are the only one with an ACR numbered 1170, period.

[CplHicks]

uscmCorps - Will your review be up soon?

[uscmCorps]

At this point, the product has become so well documented, I'm not entirely sure what I can add that hasn't already been said. I'm trying to figure out what exactly I can add to the topic, rather than waste forum space with a long review repeating what many others have already contributed. What I might do, is write a review, and add content by directly quoting others. Or I may just write a simpler review giving you all just my knee jerk reaction to the product, and the accessories I have so far. I don't know. Which would you guys prefer?

[CplHicks]

I know that you've said you don't want to waste forum space by reiterating what has already been said by other users, but I've found that your other reviews have been very informative. Don't mean to be a pain, but i'd like to read a full review

[hwagan]

I'd say a decent review on it's own first page post would be a good idea; People looking to buy a product don't generally bother wading through a thread full of information, so having all the info (taken from the thread as you suggested) condensed into one review would be a good idea. Maybe cover all the basics and quote some of the more important points in this thread would be my suggestion.

[Scuffer]

Corps - in terms of useful, probably a review of the accessories/aftermarket add ons as there are far less information/pictures of them available at the moment. You could stick the review(s) in the Accessories sub-section then link it to this thread. My thinking is that it would be nice to have a clear insight into each individual part, rather than all information in one thread which would become difficult to navigate.

 

On second thoughts, in addition to the above, we really need some clear pictures of the internals. Prehaps rather than a full review covering some of the same points, an indepth review of the internals (gearbox + hop unit/barrel) with some clear range and ROF tests etc. They are the things that I was never able to do when I had access to the Masada, and conversely probably the most important things that need looking at.

Edited August 24, 2010 by Scuffer

[Ycare]

And 1172 here btw ^^

[The Reptile House]

@Corps - I agree with Scuffer: aftermarket review, plus internals - documented in your usual style.

 

But first, I'd really like to hear your initial thoughts, to see where the similarities lie between your experience and the experience of others who have been kind enough to post.

 

Edit: clarity.

Edited August 24, 2010 by The Reptile House

[beretta]

In the "exploded" drawing you clearly see the custom nuub...its made to stay put inside the hopup when the barrel is taken out. Maybe magpull/ares will realese some other nubbs(H-type)in the future?

 

Its not a "custom" nub as such, just an Ares nub. The same one they use in the Tavor. Its pretty pants alrigt, but you can change it with a standard hopup nub. either by dropping alittle dot of glue on there and attaching the regular nub, or by changing the entire arm for that of a regular hopup. This is the option i took for the Tavor. Huge improvement.

[Ycare]

By the way, warning to all: Old PMAGs do not sit quite well in the magwel, the latch doesn't catch on fully, unless they are to be pushed fairly hard in one movement, making the removal tougher too than usual, I just found that out.

 

You'd expect Magpul's replica to fully be compliant with all their mags, but apparently isn't. New PMAGs are a perfect fit though of course.

Edited August 24, 2010 by Ycare

[WTF?Shane]

Most likely not the best fitment with green label PMAGs on this gun as well?

[AnakChan]

Here's my experience with my ACR :-

 

1) old PMags - slam to fit in...after a while, I don't need to slam it in anymore.

2) Green labels are a little bit more loose but holds in. Can't slip out. Pressing the mag release it slides/drops out easily. (P.S. I only have 20 round Green label PMags).

 

BTW, anyone noticed the flash hider doesn't appear to be removable?

Edited August 24, 2010 by AnakChan

[Ycare]

BTW, anyone noticed the flash hider doesn't appear to be removable?

 

Funny, mine went off very easily from the first try, and I surely ain't Hulk.

Adding a silencer makes it way too long though... I know, I tried

[WarriorSoul]

Here's my experience with my ACR :-

 

1) old PMags - slam to fit in...after a while, I don't need to slam it in anymore.

2) Green labels are a little bit more loose but holds in. Can't slip out. Pressing the mag release it slides/drops out easily. (P.S. I only have 20 round Green label PMags).

 

BTW, anyone noticed the flash hider doesn't appear to be removable?

 

 

M-Series PMAGs work fine

E-Mags work awesome

 

Flash hider is just locktite.. put in boiling water for 20 seconds and twist off.. but yeah no grub screw at least on the US Model. Oddly I have had problems with a few aftermarket flash-hiders not wanting to threat on.... weird.

[GingaNinga]

My flash hider came off very easily...almost too easily.

 

A big thank you to Sn00py for his advice on the spring swap. Just did it this evening, and it was easy as can be. I put a .9J Angel spring in it and it is now shooting at 95m/s. Nearly perfect for Japan.

I created another quick video of the process for those that are visual learners.

 

Edited August 24, 2010 by dstole

[AnakChan]

Cheers...yes it was a little tight.

[TheFull9]

Inner barrel definitely proprietary then? A 14.5" tightbore would make this quite a beastly machine I'd have thought, be a shame to have to wait for someone to start doing a line of ACR barrels just because normal ones aren't compatible. Then again it probably wouldn't take all that long.

[Apocalypsemeow]

Its not a "custom" nub as such, just an Ares nub. The same one they use in the Tavor. Its pretty pants alrigt, but you can change it with a standard hopup nub. either by dropping alittle dot of glue on there and attaching the regular nub, or by changing the entire arm for that of a regular hopup. This is the option i took for the Tavor. Huge improvement.

 

That's great news, a nice solution to one of the few worries I had. So first on the list will be a new hop arm and a H-nub, if that's still not 100% then I'll go for the Guarder bucking suggested earlier in the thread.

 

Here's my experience with my ACR :-

 

1) old PMags - slam to fit in...after a while, I don't need to slam it in anymore.

2) Green labels are a little bit more loose but holds in. Can't slip out. Pressing the mag release it slides/drops out easily. (P.S. I only have 20 round Green label PMags).

 

 

Good to know! I have the green labels , I'll be buying the newer P-mags anyway though just to match the colour of my masada

[sacairsoftsn00py]

The flash hider (original without the hex screw) threads onto the gun clockwise.

 

Mine was shipped with an orange plastic flash hider. The flash hider had its threads stripped and was held in place by a hex screw.