DangerWerx Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Started work on new Flute Valve after classes last week Will probably try different materials to see how things go. [...] Here is the initial FPS Shot of the MP9 With my new Jet Nozzle Installed This is with a warm magazine and a fresh injection of green gas Here is a poorly shot video of the FPS in rapid fire shots. (Taken with my Cellphone cam :-[) I am going to head back and get a better string of shots on camera. The Large red paintball chrono is easier to film for a string of shots. but I am unsure how accurate it is in comparison to Airsoft specific chrono's. Video was done with the Xortech Chrono with 2 shot magazines ( about 45 shots a mag) Averaging around 310 on with 289 on the lowest side and about 325 on the highest. This is with an unpolished valve and *slight* burrs on the piston. I tried to shoot about 3 videos, but all FPS readings were blurry due to lack of focus on my equipment. When I have time this week, I am gonna take the cylinder apart and do a serious deburr/polish job and see where how it goes. I am very excited about this. Sure, some might say this reduces the viability of the mp9 platform in open fields, but I see this as allowing the Mp9's to enter the cqb fields and dominate* * your results will vary [...] Was able to get some more chrono time today at my local shop. Each shot was about a second apart. Here are some readings (Ambient Temp 53* w/ slight breeze) Magazine 1 (Cold Magazine) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nIdCyUr234 311, 304, 280, 285, 279, 275, 271, 277, 289, 281, 295, 291, 278, 291, 281, 286, 284, 271, 270, 306, 302, 279, 280, 283, 273, 282, 282, 278, 285, 267, 286, 275, 271, 280, 273, 274, 278, 271, 267, 275, 270, 271, 276, 274, 264, 263, 281 Magazine 2 ( No video, Cold Magazine) 315, 299, 298, 280, 279, 274, 278, 283, 281, 284, 286, 291, 274, 289, 275, 274, 274, 271, 276, 286, 291, 283, 282, 285, 284, 286, 271, 278, 271, 271, 280, 283, 278, 274, 270, 279, 271, 280, 274, 276, 277, 270, 273, 281, 283, 280 Magazine3 (Heated*) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isexNjOw8p8 281, 317, 312, 315, 317, 308, 310, 302, 307, 300, 297, 295, 299, 299, 304, 297, 298, 300, 303, 303, 299, 300, 307, 303, 311, 301, 305, 327, 324, 321, 321, 324, 321, 317, 314, 322, 317, 306, 313, 308, 314, 316, 317, 315, 312, 318, 315, 312 *Heated with heat gun until magazine was about hand temperature vs cold was pretty cold to touch. This is still with an unpolished jet valve. Link to post Share on other sites
MarsdenH Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Any interest in making more? I would very much like to downgrade my mp9. Link to post Share on other sites
DangerWerx Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Any interest in making more? I would very much like to downgrade my mp9. I do plan on it. Although not by hand (machine?) It takes about 2-3 hours to cut each right now. I had the part printed up and it has been sent to a shop to have copies made. I'll have word when they are ready in the next few days. Link to post Share on other sites
DesertFox Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Would this work with the MP7 as well? I have a bunch of RA-Tech NPAS valves sitting around and was going to put this into an MP9 for CQB (whenever I got around to purchasing one). I'm wondering if both flute valves are the same. RA-Tech says their NPAS works for all System 7 guns. Link to post Share on other sites
DangerWerx Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 It probably will since I hear some people are taking the Gen 1 Mp7 nozzles and putting them into the Mp9's to get them below 350. The only downside is that KWA no longer stocks the gen 1 nozzles. That said, it will probably work too. Link to post Share on other sites
DesertFox Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 This is good news. I'd like to buy a few from you if you mass produce them, as the reliability and consistency of RA-Tech NPAS nozzles is just horrid. Link to post Share on other sites
DangerWerx Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 This is good news. I'd like to buy a few from you if you mass produce them, as the reliability and consistency of RA-Tech NPAS nozzles is just horrid. I'll be sure to make the announcement when they will be available = P Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 I'd be very keen on getting one of these. Sorry to sound picky, ill be buying one regardless of this, but are you going to tweak the design anymore? and maybe aim for 320-330? or just leave it how youve turned it at the moment? Link to post Share on other sites
DangerWerx Posted February 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 I plan on making a few design tweaks. My target is the 320 range as well. Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Ah fantastic, THis is definitely something I'll be buying Link to post Share on other sites
faramon Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Yes must say I am also interested in getting one of these once you have it all finished up! Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Please think of <300 CQB settings in other parts of the world too I'm running my KJW 1911 with a wooden valve made by myself Link to post Share on other sites
DangerWerx Posted March 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I finally got around to making a few more units! Stay tuned for more pics! Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Can I call dibs on one? Link to post Share on other sites
DangerWerx Posted March 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Here is an Update for things to come!!! Excuse the fuzzy image, I have yet to pick up a Macro lens for my iFlip... Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 This is good news. I'd like to buy a few from you if you mass produce them, as the reliability and consistency of RA-Tech NPAS nozzles is just horrid. Have you had any experience of failures? I've not had that problem with mine in the past and mine is causing my MP9 to put out pretty much 300 on the nose and a handy 20rps. All the adjustment from there is downward though. Link to post Share on other sites
DangerWerx Posted March 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Can I call dibs on one? Sure, I have a limited number available. I'll have a price up later. Also, CNC'd Production sample. Smooth polished and looking beautiful. Ambient temp was 67*F Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Thats spot on really, Just PM me a price mate. Link to post Share on other sites
DangerWerx Posted March 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Right now I am looking at $15 a unit + shipping. I'll post here when I have a for sale ad setup in the Sales section. Link to post Share on other sites
DangerWerx Posted March 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 For those who are interested, a posted a Sales ad up HERE Link to post Share on other sites
Wingmann Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Hmm I would need a fatter valve to get it below 300... Link to post Share on other sites
DangerWerx Posted March 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 What is the FPS you are looking for? Link to post Share on other sites
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