Tanaka silver Colt SAA Artillery

[Shao14]

does anyone know if the S.A.A will reliebly take green (nudges sledge)

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Seems that way so far.

[codename 47]

cheers because that gun looks so cool and i imagined it would have a good fps on green anybody got a coke can

[Sledge]

Running mine on green, no probs yet. And it makes a better noise than 134a.

 

[Shao14]

cheers because that gun looks so cool and i imagined it would have a good fps on green anybody got a coke can

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There's already a test if you just flip back a couple pages.

[snowman]

cheers because that gun looks so cool and i imagined it would have a good fps on green anybody got a coke can

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Nothing like a really scientific approach

 

Cheers.

[THE_ARCHANGEL]

Related to the "rattle" and disassembly of the Pegasus cylnder:

 

This is assuming you've made it far enough to remove the cylinder. As pointed out in another topic, to remove the cylinder you basically have to take off the grip, trigger gaurd, and remove the hammer. Once the hammer is out of the way, you use the enclosed 2 prong tool to unscrew the screw and associated pieces, as well as the front retaining pin which comes out easily. Swing open the shell port arm and roll out the gas cylinder. The loading tube will need to out as well.

 

If you look closely you can see the general wear on the area where I've pried apart the gas resevoir....but it does come apart (and goes together much more easily).

 

This pic is technically upside down as the valve for the discharge is on the bottom but I wanted to show you how it looked.

 

FYI: The main portion of the resevoir has a slot that the backside meshes with, so putting the back on the "wrong" way is pretty much nil.

 

Front view of the back of the resevoir cylinder with everything put together. You can see the "slot" here on the right side.

 

This pic shows a closer look from the side....with the retaining pin of the valve mechanism removed. 2 things can "rattle" in the SAA:

 

1. When the screws (PART 64) that hold the valve section (PART 61) to the base (PART 60) get loose it can rattle back and forth. If you look at the above pic you can see mine are a little loose. Simply tighten them and you're good to go.

 

2. The small rod that is removed above (PART 63) which holds the valve lever (PART 62) which in turn holds the entire valve assembly in (PARTS 65 & 66), is smaller than the cylinder (but just so). After some use the valve assembly gets looser, so the rod isn't held as tightly....so it slides back and forth from one side of the cylinder to the other. It will never slide one direction or the other far enough to fall out so don't worry about that. After awhile this will happen and you can live with it or stretch the valve spring a little to increase pressure.

 

Cut out close up of Sledge's Part's scan for reference....

 

Again, neither of the issues listed above will ruin your gun, but in the event of #1, if the screws work themselves all the way out somehow (which is unlikely because they'll hit the rod) your gun will stop functioning correctly as the valve will not be able to engage correctly.

 

A couple notes on putting the resevoir cylinder back together:

- The main resevoir and the base should mesh back together with no hassles or tools.

- Whenever I open the resevoir, I add a little Shock Oil to the o-rings to keep them lubricated.

- IMPORTANT: When you replace the entire cylinder section (resevoir, cylinder, shell back) make sure you have lined up the release valve to a whole in the cylinder. If not, when you pull the trigger gass will release not being lined up with the barrel. With that in mind....keep the valve hole lined up with a cylinder hole....then make sure that hole is lined up with the barrel when you roll the cylinder back into the gun receiver. This might not make sense to people now but it will if you pull your baby apart. It's something most people miss the first time the put their SAA's back together....and they figure it out pretty quickly when theygas it up and pull the trigger.

- Don't crank to hard on the back screw assembly when tightening it back up. I did....and I broke off part of the bases back (PART 60, back not pictured) that holds the screw assembly in place. I was lucky that with even half the screw assembly holds....but I would save some of you that issue.

 

Sorry this took so long and I hope it helps people understand the inner working of their SAA's. If you have more questions or want more pics, let me know.

 

*Oh, I've only ever used HFC22 in my SAA's. They run fine and power is MUCH better. If you want chrono figures I could try to do them as I have a "Big Red" radar chrono....but I need to get a new battery.

Edited August 2, 2005 by THE_ARCHANGEL

[Sledge]

Oh yeah, meant to say: Shao, if you want to copy my scans from the other thread into this one, feel free.

 

My SAA chronos at about 310 fps on green with .2s. In case that's of interest/relevance.

 

[Shao14]

Excellent post! Thank you!

[Shao14]

Oh yeah, meant to say: Shao, if you want to copy my scans from the other thread into this one, feel free.

 

My SAA chronos at about 310 fps on green with .2s. In case that's of interest/relevance.

 

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Thanks, Sledge. I'll just link it here for easy access. http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...topic=25714&hl=

[Prometheus]

I don't know if you guys cover this already, but can you fan the gun or does the hammer prevent this..

 

Also, the hammer pull...In the Video you seem to have some trouble with the hammer when cocking it. It stops half way and then goes out to full..

 

PM me please. I probalby won't check back on this thread.

 

~P

[snowman]

You can fan it and it does have a half stop position which seems a bit too easy to engage when cocking normally (just like the TM Hi Capa...)

 

On the fanning, some report that this will damage the gun, but it is possible to do (I'm sure anyone who has owned an SAA has tried it once )

 

Cheers.

[Sledge]

Once? I try that at least once a day!

 

[Prometheus]

So you can fan the gun. Is that what the half stop position is for. You pull the hammer back to just before the half stop and fan it whilst pulling it allthe way back will lock it into place for a trigger pull?

 

I might have to pick up a silver version....

 

Damn you guys. Making me spend more money on guns. I don't have enough money to get accessories.

 

~P

[Shao14]

I don't know if you guys cover this already, but can you fan the gun or does the hammer prevent this..

 

Also, the hammer pull...In the Video you seem to have some trouble with the hammer when cocking it. It stops half way and then goes out to full..

 

PM me please. I probalby won't check back on this thread.

 

~P

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What do you mean by fanning the gun? (sorry, low vocab here. ) The cylinder can not rotate freely if that's what you mean, even when you put the hammer in the half cocked position. You can hear clearly audiable clicking sound when you rotate the cylinder from round by round.

 

And yes, with the gun fully loaded, the loading tube push the BBs down at the cylinder, and it makes the cylinder harder to rotate, and consequently, harder to cock. In the second video where I loaded only six rounds like real man does , and it's much smoother to cock.

 

 

Here's a un-related question for everyone who owns an SAA: do you draw faster using cross draw holster or using a drop leg holster? In either case, I feel faster with my non-trigger hand to do the cocking, and I think I can cross draw faster.

Edited August 3, 2005 by Shao14

[Sledge]

"Fanning" is when you hold the trigger town and fire the gun by repeatedly cocking the hammer with your other hand. Doc does it in Tombstone when he draws his first pistol at the OK Corral. It allows the user to fire more rapidly than conventional thumb-cocking would allow. If you can get the knack.

 

[Shao14]

"Fanning" is when you hold the trigger town and fire the gun by repeatedly cocking the hammer with your other hand. Doc does it in Tombstone when he draws his first pistol at the OK Corral. It allows the user to fire more rapidly than conventional thumb-cocking would allow. If you can get the knack.

 

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Ah, I see, let me time myself...

 

I believe that's 6 shots in 2 seconds. I need to try to get it under one.

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=SAAFanning

Edited August 3, 2005 by Shao14

[snowman]

You're actually 'fanning' the hammer, rather than the gun.

 

If anyone's still unclear, it's the flapping of the hand over the hammer (cocking it and letting it fall, due to the pulled trigger) as if fanning it with your hand to cool it.

 

Cheers.

[Prometheus]

Ah, I see, let me time myself...

 

I believe that's 6 shots in 2 seconds.   I need to try to get it under one.

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=SAAFanning

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Nice.

 

Try just holding the trigger down instead of pulling it for each shot though. Many people in the old west would tie a string around the trigger to hold it back and just fan it......well, it wasn't common, but that is what they would do.

 

Some even removed the trigger all the way so as to draw the gun faster and get a shot of quicker than the other guy.

 

~P

[Sledge]

So, when you getting yours, Prom?

 

[Prometheus]

Probably around christmas. I'm low on money right now. Gotta wait for birthday and christmas money.... I might try to get a used one.......

 

Nah

 

 

I'll just get a new one around christmas. Money is scarse right now for me.

 

 

 

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[Shao14]

Nice.

 

Try just holding the trigger down instead of pulling it for each shot though. Many people in the old west would tie a string around the trigger to hold it back and just fan it......well, it wasn't common, but that is what they would do.

 

Some even removed the trigger all the way so as to draw the gun faster and get a shot of quicker than the other guy.

 

~P

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I see. Let me go try that. Maybe that's why I couldn't get it under 2 seconds.

[Shao14]

Ah ha! I believe this is under 2 seconds! http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=SAAFanning2

 

I wouldn't recommend to abuse your beautiful SAA like this though, only after you are comfortable with it. However, it is certainly possible to do, and as long as you do it correctly by pulling the hammer all the way back before releasing it, it should not cause more wear than just shooting the gun normally. In fact, it should cause less wear on the trigger.

[Prometheus]

Yay. You did it!

 

Now I have to get one. Just for the cool factor.

 

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[Sledge]

Isn't that a daisy?

 

[Buttons]

I refuse to fan as it makes you look like a ponce.