AustinWolv Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Trasher, nice-looking indeed. a forearm bracket must be dremeled off, because CA changed the TOP receiver). While the CA receiver is different, that bracket was on the TOP version as well and had to be dremeled off also. You got the CA steel parts kit? How is the fit? Link to post Share on other sites
Hillslam Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Nice, Trasher. Looks good. How do you like the top heat sheild being off exposing the outer barrel? Also, I assume you cannot retract the bipod legs with the foregrip there? Link to post Share on other sites
Trasher Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Thanks for the correction on the TOP receiver, AustinWolv... Yep, I got the CA steel kit. The installation was effortless and simple. The fit is great. For some reason the main bipod bracket has a different, lighter coloured finish (perhaps it's harder than the rest?). The CA Para flash hider is a surprisingly thick piece of steel with nice, smooth finish... These parts definitely worth the money, and they are cheap. The RAS is from G&G, the fit is very tight, no wobble whatsoever. Hillslam, I prefer the "naked" look, but only with the short barreled setup. I think I'll order the Prime upper RAS to complete the SPW/Mk46 look. (An Mk46-style outer barrel would be nice.) ... As for the "bipod vs vertical grip" problem, I've found a very simple (but not perfect) solution, using a plastic slide ring. By sliding the ring up/down you can open/close the bipod fairly easy. Link to post Share on other sites
screamin_weasel Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 its nice to see im not the only person with massive gouge marks in their outer barrel looks good dude. theres so much i want to do to mine, but i just have so much other stuff to buy i cant quite yet Link to post Share on other sites
Trasher Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Anyone has a pic showing the Prime upper RAS on a TOP/CA? Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 I hate to needlessly disrupt this thread folks, but of the boxmag choices is there one that stands out/is universally used by all you lovely CA249 owners (yes I'm trying to avoid the cries of "Seeeeeeaaarccchh!!!" You can *sense* the brown nosing ) please? I'm ordering a CA249 next Friday, I blatantly can't afford the boxmag until the week after, and I'm dedicating all subsequent funds 'till the new year to my holidays and the intrinsic/resulting alcohol problem I don't want to make the wrong choice, basically, and a little advice from you fine folk could save me, ooh, dozens of minutes searching when I'm technically getting paid to work All help is greatly appreciated, as usual. Link to post Share on other sites
screamin_weasel Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 serch n00b. as far as i know, you are pretty much stuck with either TOP or CA for the CA249 (the STAR one has a different feeding nozzle). the only problems i have had with my CA one, i would imagine are on the TOP one as well. the sides of the mag flex, and thus BB's fall out of the 'right' compartment. this is annoying, and also can make the mag feed unreliably. this is because they jam against the side of hte mechanism and mag, and mess it up. i have 'fixed this by strategically putting some tape inside the mag. i'll get pics if you want. the only other 'problem' is that the autowind button isn't linked to the trigger. i intend on putting a pressure switch on the trigger, so it winds when i pull it. you can press the button right in so it stays winding, but then you have to press it again to stop it. basically it is just annoying. not a problem, but annoying nonetheless. oh and its a VERY tight fit, which is good once its on, but not when you are trying to take it off/put it on. i cant speak for the TOP one, i have no idea about it. Link to post Share on other sites
Trasher Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 I'm ordering a CA249 next Friday, I blatantly can't afford the boxmag until the week after<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just use the 300 round M16 mag supplied with the gun (or other hicaps), till you have the funds for the boxmag... I see no other options... A Beta-C mag borrowed from a friend, perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 While I haven't fielded the CA box mag much, it does not feed as well as the TOP version. The TOP version you could fully wind and it would feed BBs, but the CA version seems that you have to keep the winding going to continually feed. Link to post Share on other sites
Trasher Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 AustinWolv, The TOP/CA boxmag feeding adapters are identical? I am thinking about buying a 2nd box and making a 100-round soft mag lookalike, using the innards of CA/TOP and externals of a "real steel" mag. Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Well, they *should* be identical, but I don't have a TOP version in front of me to compare. The main difference is that the TOP version is thin sheetmetal, while the CA version is plastic. Frankly, the plastic one is easier to deal with with less sharp edges. They should fit the same however since they are both entering magwels that are sized for the same mags (M16 stick mags), right? Given airsoft, nothing is a given though. sigh...... The soft pack idea is a neat one, and definitely doable, given that a "bowl" structure contains the BBs to the top area. Link to post Share on other sites
LoneWolf Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 I just said goodbye to my would-be CA M249.....eh, maybe for X-Mas... Cheers, Mike ™ Link to post Share on other sites
beagle Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 I absalutly love my M249 First problem I had was, The outer label of my large battery was 8.4 but on the inside it's actualy 12v after getting a repair It was back in action Absalutly love it, I found I could hold 10-20 people of at once Class moment has to be when me and another M240 gunner were held up at this bunker at LFU with an APC and Minigunner on top and at least 30 lad's coming up on the rear of it, We inflicted at least 25 hit's my all time moment Werner Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 Just use the 300 round M16 mag supplied with the gun (or other hicaps), till you have the funds for the boxmag... I see no other options... A Beta-C mag borrowed from a friend, perhaps? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've decided to forego the boxmag until the new year as I'll have to get GnG to order one in for me anyway. Seeing as you mention it; I am all of my friend's entire arsenal and armoury so I can't borrow anything from anyone! Mind you, once this CA249 arrives I'll be able to fully equip a team of 12 players and if people don't mind using handguns I could arm an entire skirmish Nonetheless it leaves me boxmag-less until after Christmas curses to these family and friends, and their seasonally giftual demands! Link to post Share on other sites
Hillslam Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 I'm not sure the TOP boxmag version's button works the same as the CA boxmags. On the CA version you can detent the wind button and it will continue winding until you press it again and release it from detented. Or you can just press it in to wind abit. The TOP I beleive only lets you do the latter and has no detent feature. I like to wind my CA until I hear the "click click click" sound of the mag spring. Once there I can let off the motor winding and it'll shoot ~100 rounds before needing wound again. I've counted Get the CA. And tape the sides when you skirmish or you could pop the side off if you get it caught on a branch or something. And Weasel, my barrel has also born its share of gouges and gashes. Its on its second coat of paint and about to undergo its third. The poor thing. I seem to plow it into every bit of folliage, concrete, brick, metal, and rock I possibly could on every outing... Tip: don't use Krylon Semi-Matte. Its too shiny. Use Krylon Satin Black. Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 The TOP box mag does not have the "stay-on" feature. It has been a while, but I think the best I could get out of the TOP was ~200 rounds when it was fully wound and then a bit extra. With the CA box mag I have, I doubt I'm getting more than 30-40 rounds, and it needs to be wound again. The TOP didn't have to be wound continuously.....the CA does. At least mine does. I haven't bothered yet to pull it apart to see if any improvements can be made. Link to post Share on other sites
screamin_weasel Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 the only barrel gauges mine has are from where in all my wisdom i wanted to take teh heatshiled off for no reason . jesus christ it took me ages and a lot of effort to push it back on, that spring clip that goes round the barrel was VERY tight. it wont be coming off again, thats for sure. but at least it wont fall off. Link to post Share on other sites
beagle Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 No the TOP version doesnt it's practicly useless in my opinion Though the previous owner of my CA gave me the broken CA box mag with it, I simply swapped the internal's over with my old TOP one and it work's a dream Usualy when im shooting I leave the box mag winding ! unless im sneaking about in building's Though I think you can get the box mag powerswitched so you can have a lead going up to the trigger ! Place it right behind the trigger so evertime you pull it wind's Werner Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 No the TOP version doesnt it's practicly useless in my opinion Funny how differently people view things. I view the CA box mag as being practically useless in that that damn thing won't feed unless you stay on the winding button. Weak. The TOP feed worked much better IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
evilhippy Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Thanks for all the info chaps, I'll be going for the CA version - the decider is simply compatibility and brand continuity, and I'll arrange/have arranged a switch linked to the trigger somehow. But not until 2006 Oh well. Link to post Share on other sites
Hillslam Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Austin - I think there's something wrong with your boxmag. I don't have those feeding problems at all. I have taken mine apart and cleaned, degreased, and regreased it, but that was like 30-40k rounds ago. Still working like a champ. May tear it down again over the winter. I also tape the front/side - makes pouring bbs in a snap. See attached pic. ----- On other items, if you ever lose one of those rounded black bolts on the outside here's their specs: They are button head allen cap screws, size 4, standard thread pitch, 6mm length. Link to post Share on other sites
Trasher Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 My experience is the same as AustinWolv's... I can fire only 30-50 rounds without winding. Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 I guess we chalk it up to good 'ol CA quality. Have to take mine apart soon anyway to wire in a pressure switch, so I'll inspect it then. The tape used to block off the lower part is a common thing done on the TOP box mags back in the day also. Whatever is handy to use as a "shield".....I've seen a thin sheet of plastic cut to fit, seen thin sheet of hobby foam, seen tape like that......pretty much anything to place there and is trapped by the door. Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Saw the KANZEN ad on the front page of Arnies and checked it out. They don't have 8mm bearings currently, but responded with this info in email: Thank you for your interest in KANZEN. We are planning to soon release a Bearings Kit, from the SERIES-L for CA M249 AEG. KANZEN Line Dept. Customer Service Headquarters KANZEN Link to post Share on other sites
Hillslam Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 I forgot to ask, Thrasher. Do you mind posting where you ordered from and what was your impression on the service? (Assuming you didn't just buy local) Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
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