17 replies to this topic

[chas]

Im freacking out! Especially since Tokio Marui announces the Japan release of the M14 for july the 9th!

[dirty mao]

july or august 9th? 'cause as you are prolly quite aware, 7/9 is already way past.

[NamantH]

I am so tempted to put the order in for that. I am ordering this week. but I really dont have the cash.

But I want it sooo bad

[Crandall]

airsoftgi.com has it for the same price, and shipping will be cheaper!

[elrey]

I have $300 to spend... if it has better reviews than the M14, there's a good chance I'll buy it.

[Crandall]

I have $300 to spend... if it has better reviews than the M14, there's a good chance I'll buy it.

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Where'd you get $300?!!

[nikoneko]

WAR4 now has the STAR UMP on preorder for $280....competition starts....I'll let the dust settle before I put my money down...but as of right now, I tend to lean towards G&G...

And it (STAR) seems to have the real deal trademarks...
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Edited by nikoneko, 28 July 2005 - 02:50 PM.

[luninhk]

The shape of the handgrip is difference from G&G's one?

The HK mark is a point for buying but I wonder why G&G cancel this.

[Lumin]

hmm looks like the G&G one takes small battery packs while the STAR one takes stick packs..

[Murph]

hmm looks like the G&G one takes small battery packs while the STAR one takes stick packs..

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They both take sticks.
However, I did see some misinformation that the STAR could minis... But there is no way one could ever fit in there.

[mtdarkwolf]

the star one doesn't come with a gearbox though does it?

[Duke Togo]

the star one doesn't come with a gearbox though does it?

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I don't know if you're being facetious, but the Star UMP was just a kit for a TM G36. All together it ran about $500 for both, and the kit was extremely limited so it went for much more. I've seen just the kit sell for more than $800. I think that G&G has made a smart move by producing this AEG.

[NamantH]

I don't know if you're being facetious, but the Star UMP was just a kit for a TM G36.  All together it ran about $500 for both, and the kit was extremely limited so it went for much more.  I've seen just the kit sell for more than $800.  I think that G&G has made a smart move by producing this AEG.

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the new Star UMP is a full on AEG, not a kit. The kit was from a while back (a few months at least). I know they were originally planning on a full AEG release, and now it has come to pass.

I pre-ordered the G&G one. I liked the look a little more than the star... cant really put my fingre on it. Although i will deffinately need to buy a few mid or high caps when they come out. and get some custom batteries, or re-wire for a peq

[mtdarkwolf]

I don't know if you're being facetious, but the Star UMP was just a kit for a TM G36.  All together it ran about $500 for both, and the kit was extremely limited so it went for much more.  I've seen just the kit sell for more than $800.  I think that G&G has made a smart move by producing this AEG.

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i was trying to figure out if, while both guns are $280, they are infact for the same deal. If the G&G one was for a complete AEG while the STAR one was just for a conversion kit that wouldn't be much of a deal.

[Duke Togo]

My mistake. At the time I posted this, I hadn't seen that Star was bringing out a full gun. I'm still not sure it's a full gun since there's no mention of motor type or fps and it says compatible with marui piston and gears. There was a conversion kit for the G36, that's what I was referring to. Trades are of little importance to me; the main factors are that the bolt is molded on the Star, it doesn't move. The second factor is mags; they are harder to find for the kit than the kit is. When a company known for making pretty good mags, can't make enough for it's own gun, that's a problem. Finally, the Star doesn't come with the two side rails like the G&G. If you want them you'll have to pay more. I'm not sure if the Star UMPs barrel is threaded either. I'm sticking with my G&G preorder for now.

[NamantH]

http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper.php?itm=STAR-AEG-UMP

pix of the gun with the gearbox.
from WGC:

Gear Box - Version 3
Motor - /
Magazine - 110 Rounds
Length - 680
Height - /
Barrel Length - 195mm
Weight - 2630g
Battery - 8.4V 1700mAh Stick Type ( Not Include )
Package includes ( AEG, Magazine )
Initial bullet speed - 270fps with 0.2g bbs

picture looks like a non threaded, almost like one of those pop over barrels.

Edited by NamantH, 03 August 2005 - 09:43 PM.

[matt bond]

The star ump barrel is threaded, you unscrew the flashider much like that on a mp5k (the flashider has the male threaded end) the barrel a threaded hole (the female end)

You will need to either buy the specific UMP silencer being released by Star or an adaptor like for the MP5K.

[flipsnip]

the star one is very tempting. Trades matter a lot to me, so long as its solid and fairly reliable.