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[ciunnc]

Both items were promised to be handed to preorder buyers by the end of July (31st) but two days have passed and the shop sales kept saying within this few days, one or two more days, soon soon, etc etc. Well I will wait till end of the week (7th Aug) if they cant deliver by then further action will be required but i am guessing those preordered items outside of Taiwan will be seriously delayed also.

I hate having paid and having to wait, and the worst part now is the specified time have passed and still i dont see the goods or an exact date of delivery = endless waiting (BIG NO! NO!) . This is messing with me!!!!

[Magsz]

I guess thats what you get for preordering. I really dont see how anyone "wins" by being impatient.

If you have a problem with handing over money before services are rendered simply dont hand out your money until you are guaranteed a product.

[ciunnc]

yeah, i know that the normal to go is to see the item that you are buying give the $$ and take the item away, but by per-ordering i get 30% off the retails price, a free gift and extra low price offer to buy the genuine wood stock. which sum up to become an extremely attractive offer that i just cant resist. This was my first pre-order item , i usually only buy item when i see what i am getting.

well good news, the shop called me last nite, and my items are waiting for collection, so will have some photos soon..

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[NamantH]

genuine wood stock? oh you got the soc 14...

I orderd the umg from airsoftgi and well im still waiting to hear. They originally said mid august they would get them even though others are saying july 31st... well I laughed.

They will come out. I just hope I get mine before the 19th

[ciunnc]

genuine wood stock? oh you got the soc 14...

I orderd the umg from airsoftgi and well im still waiting to hear.  They originally said mid august they would get them even though others are saying july 31st... well I laughed.

They will come out.  I just hope I get mine before the 19th

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Well UMP suppose to come out 31st July but G&G release a news saying they are upgrading some internal part so it will be delayed, the shop sales was telling we could be getting our around mid August, so i doubt that you guys will be getting this anysoon outside of taiwan.

[NamantH]

Well UMP suppose to come out 31st July but G&G release a news saying they are upgrading some internal part so it will be delayed, the shop sales was telling we could be getting our around mid August, so i doubt that you guys will be getting this anysoon outside of taiwan.

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damnit... grrr... well as long as it is a good gun I wont be to upset.

[ciunnc]

damnit... grrr... well as long as it is a good gun I wont be to upset.

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They say they are putting some good stuff into the the gun to make it better. what ever it is, it so far working on my friend who had ordered his and he is also thinking the same way as you do, if G&G takes an extra two weeks to delivered a better gun then he wont mind waiting the extra two weeks.

[NamantH]

On the g&g site, they have on the american side "Hot Released" on the UMG as of today, and on the chinese side they have an image posted yesterday about the UMG. I am wondering if it is starting to sneak out or not.

[ciunnc]

Just got call from G&G today, UMP and SOC16 hot on the shelf, but when i got there, the shelves were still hot, but the guns were already gone,,,,,,,,,,,told off the shop sales, having them hold me shares of guns until i can get hold of them tomorrow night.

So i guess G&G are really pushing the production to the limits just to fill local orders..there were still about 15 orders of various item (soc16 and UMP) still to be deliverred by the branch that i went to. There are about 5-6 branches around taiwan.

thats the news from taiwan today ...........

[Duke Togo]

Just got call from G&G today, UMP and SOC16 hot on the shelf, but when i got there, the shelves were still hot, but the guns were already gone,,,,,,,,,,,told off the shop sales, having them hold me shares of guns until i can get hold of them tomorrow night.

So i guess G&G are really pushing the production to the limits just to fill local orders..there were still about 15 orders of various item (soc16 and UMP) still to be deliverred by the branch that i went to. There are about 5-6 branches around taiwan.

thats the news from taiwan today ...........

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Thanks for the update. It's good to know that they are being made as we speak, we just have to wait for our turn.

[ciunnc]

well. finally got me hands on me very own SOC16, well two of them at the moment, one for me friend. and i will post some pics on here, once i figure out what wrong with imageshack,,,cant seem to get it to work...

[ciunnc]

here we got, i still cant get imageshack to work. its late. but not need to go to work in the morning cos its a typhoon holiday today(05/08-Taiwan) but manage to get some photo to yahoo photos.. check it out.

yahoo photo album -soc 16

1. what you get in a box.
2. gun, mag, instruction manual, red dot scope, cleaning rod, mag filling rod.
3. two guns.
4. comparison with other guns.

[NamantH]

thats deffinately a pretty looking gun there. Let us know how it is on the field when you get a chance

[IronWolf]

whoa, shorter barrel and its still longer then an sg1

[ColSanders]

More pictures PLEASE .

Alex "Col Sanders"

[Ryz0n]

how much did the SOC16 cost you? Are you going to do some performance tests any time soon?

[ciunnc]

whoa, shorter barrel and its still longer then an sg1

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Its actullay slighty shorter than an SG1. the gun next to it its a HK33, which is shorter by about an inch or so compare to the SG1.

will take it to the field this sunday if weather permits, performance wise, i am thinking its the same as the normal M14, maybe not shooting as far or as good of a grouping due to the shorter inner batter, which is only about 4cm longer then a M4-A1 standard barrel. (36.5cm)

the red dot is nicely made, (well its included with the gun, so i am not complaining much) but mount forward of the ejector port, the red dot at that distance have become a huge dot, not very precise dot with much blurring on the side, this is what 30USD-100USD. have to start saving for a real steel EO-tech or Aimpoint to fix that problem.


Cost wise, G&G local price is around 600+USD pre order price is 30% off with all the accessories you see in the photo (pay for the item in 3 weeks before you get it). Plus pre-ordered wood stock are sold for under 100USD -what a steal, production price will of course be higher. (its coming end of AUG).

We also will try out the UMG this sunday hopefully, it was shooting fine in the shops, but dont know how far and what sort of grouping it will get in open/ distance area.

will post more on sunday.

will also take more photo of the gun with red dor mounted, later on the day.

[ciunnc]

Took the SOC 16 for a game on sunday, no photo.. too busy shooting......chrono at about 108 (0.2 bb with hopup adjusted, so if fully released hopup, i am guessing about 110)out of the box, very stable.

shooting is also very stable. at 10m grouping is around 5cm by 5cm using 0.2bb on semi.

if i were to use 0.25 i am guessing grouping would be better. exellent long range weapon, no much reduction in range or accuracy from the standard M14. But i did not do a test comparision. should do that next time. CQB wise. was chasing two guys with the TROY's SOCMOD M14, with the retractable stock. they were definetenly more nimble and agile inside close area. so i guess m14 for long range , SOC16 for medium range, if you wnat to go short range/cqb best to get one of them SOCMOD M14..

The red dot that came with the SOCOM were great also, worked like a charm.

[Duke Togo]

Took the SOC 16 for a game on sunday, no photo.. too busy shooting......chrono at about 108 (0.2 bb with hopup adjusted, so if fully released hopup, i am guessing about 110)out of the box, very stable.

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110 fps? That's horrible! Are you speaking in terms of fps or joules? 1.10 J is ok, but 110 fps is a joke.

[TheFrag]

110 fps?  That's horrible!  Are you speaking in terms of fps or joules?  1.10 J is ok, but 110 fps is a joke.

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I would hope he is saying 110 mps, as they DO use the metric system in Australia

Where did you get it from?