P226 frame disassembly

[jackie_rants]

Hi there

Does anyone how to diassemble / re-assemble the lower frame of a Marui P226? I've recently bought a metal lower frame and have no idea where to start.

Thanks

[the sniper]

how detailed do you need, do you need help with the slide as well what make of frame is it

I did the change out on my friends guarder one took about 3 hours including the slide

[bb_hood05]

I myself purchased the guarder slide/frame combo but have never installed one before. I get the jist of a majority of the installation based on what the TM diagram in the manual has shown with the exception of 3 parts. I would like to know where to place parts for P226 53, 54, and 42 correctly since it wasn't specified in the diagram.

[jackie_rants]

Hi there

The kit is made by Action. Help needed on the lower frame only

Thanks

[the sniper]

sorry this has taken a while to do i had ito get the p226 book from my friend so that it might make a bit more sense. so get a drink sit down and read the post and ask question if you need to email me glocks @ntlworld.com

 

dis-assembly

 

remove magazine and remove slide release hammer

 

make sure magazine fits in new frame file all inner cast lines as necessary

 

remove grips and remove decocking lever

 

remove parts 57 58

 

unhook part 63 and remove part 61 62

 

knock out the pin part 41 from right to left (looking from the back of the gun) might be a bit tight

 

remove spring 42 from under trigger bar

 

the whole hammer mech should now be removable take care of part 39 and its spring 38 as they can come free and pin 40 will try to fall out if mech is tipped

 

to remove mag catch un hook and pull up on part 64 and remove them slide out mag catch

 

push safety on, push part 53 away from location hole in part 60, remove part 60

 

file any cast lines off the flat face of part 60

 

remove screw 59 from side of frame and screw 52 from top of trigger mech

 

remove trigger mech taking care of spring 48 as it is free

 

refitting

 

check that part 60 fits in new frame and rotates freely

 

install trigger mech, check hole for part 60 lines up (a slight adjustment with a file to the base of trigger mech (part 51) or to the boss where screw 52 goes might be required to make the holes line up

 

install part 60 make sure it rotates freely and that part 53 locks it in all positions

 

re fit mag catch and slide in part 64

 

holding the trigger bar (part 43) up install hammer mech part 39 should be free to move up and down if not remove and file lightly where necessary

 

once it is free to move push in pin 41 and check it again

 

re fit spring 42

 

re fit part 61 62 and 63 making sure part 61 sits on the pin 31 in the hammer

 

re fit de cocking lever

 

re fit grips

 

CHECK

 

cock hammer and pull trigger should fire . pull trigger should fire . cock trigger press decocking lever hammer should decock

 

 

CAUTION

 

when you fit the slide make sure that the flat part on the rear of part 27 does not interfere with part 60 to tightly or the slide might get stuck once the lever gets rotated . a slight file of the flat part and radius of part 23 might be required to stop this happening

 

insert empty mag (no gas no bbs) rack slide press slide lever all should operate freely

 

insert gassed mag and dry fire should fire

 

insert full mag and have lots of fun should sound great

 

if slide is a little slow a up-rated recoil might be needed

[jackie_rants]

Hi the sniper,

Atm, with most parts refitted, pulling the trigger does not release the hammer. How does trigger bar (#34) interact with the hammer mech?

Also, little spring (#42), which way round does it sit, and does it hook onto anything?

Thanks for the help!

[the sniper]

the small end of the hammer spring faces up towards the hammer

 

the small end of the trigger bar (part 43) fits in the cut out of part 35 so that it rotates when the trigger is pulled

 

spring 42 fits under the trigger bar and clips to the frame so that it keeps the trigger bar up

[bb_hood05]

Sniper, would you be able to post how 53 and 54 is arranged since I'm still unsure as to how it is place according to the diagram in the manual?

[the sniper]

part 53 and 54 are the small part and the spring that keep the disassembly lever part 60 in the correct place. part 53 and 54 are held in place by pin 55 which goes through the trigger housing and through both parts before housing is put in the frame

[[VT]Mofo2000]

Jackie,

I was wondering if the Action kit is a straight drop in without any modding/dremmeling. I'd like to find out how well it all works out in the end. thx.

[jackie_rants]

Hi the sniper,

I'm having difficulty getting the trigger bar (#43) to line up or engage with anything. Does it fall into place, or is some careful maneuvering required? I've enclosed a pic, part #43 has a red mark on it.

Thanks

 

[VT]Mofo2000, the kit seems good, for the price. Very minor filing so far, but I can't put it together. Definitely me being blonde, rather than the kit. Will let you know the verdict when it's complete.

[the sniper]

sorry but i will not be able to get any pics to assist you until the weekend but this might help

 

the trigger bar needs to be further forward and up from the position in the picture (your red dot should be over the silver part )

with the hammer uncocked pull the trigger slowly and move the trigger bar up and then insert spring 42 under trigger bar and to its locating point on the frame

 

the fold in the trigger bar to the left of the red dot is what pulls the silver part ( part 35) in the pic to release the hammer when it is cocked

[jackie_rants]

I think its put together correctly now... but some areas need looking at, like the hammer rubbing too much against the blowback chamber when slide cycles, mag not seating properly, and some other wee bits. Now the fun part to get it running smoothly.

Thanks for the help

[bb_hood05]

Hey the sniper, I know that you were able to help out with jackie_rants but if you can I still kinda need some help. Since you did mention that you would be able to post some pics over the weekend I hope you can post them; that would be greatly appreciated. Yes, I am still having trouble fitting the aforementioned pieces. I just wished TM manual included that in their diagram since it wasn't really specific in the placement.

[Wege]

Because they (i do not believe) do not want you to pull it apart ..?

[the sniper]

sorry this has taken so long but i needed to find the time to take the sig apart and take the pics

 

 

take trigger assembly and turn upside down so trigger is pointing up

 

 

put part 53 in the rectangular hole

 

push in pin 55 half way put spring in place and push on it so that when the pin is pushed all the way in goes through it ( the hooked end of the spring fits over part 53)

turn whole assembly over and it should look like this

 

 

 

hope this helps email me (glocks@ntlworld.com) if it don't with pics so i can see where the problem is if you can

[bb_hood05]

thanks sniper, I was going nuts over the whole ordeal as to how to reassemble the damn thing. All I needed was those final parts. stupid tiny parts

[Wege]

Have you considered a photo-step-by-step of this?

 

Neat shots, nice stuff. :)s

[the sniper]

might well just do that. The gun I did was a friends with a guarder frame and slide. I have just got my own (just had to be done) and when pgc or prime release a machined silver frame , slide and barrel set the some pics might be in order

[Gman]

Much obliged for the expertise Sniper as I'm tackling the same TM P226 swap to Guarder metal frame/slide set.

 

I'm looking forward to the lower frame job after your brilliant tutorial but I have a quick question for you on the slide.

 

I've noticed the Guarder metal one doesnt have the internal square and rectangular recesses the orginal TM plastic one has to locate all the slide 'gubbins' (dang I'm technical..).

 

So prior to me doing anything 'foolish' (that I cant undo) any assistance on how you made the 'gubbins' and slide fit together would be greatly appreciated.

[the sniper]

Gman i'm sure you can guess what is coming next

 

 

 

 

The plastic slide flexes so the slide internals are located by the square and rectangular shapes on the side and then screwed down. The metal slide will not flex so a good sharp file is need to carefully file off the square and rectangular shapes so the internals will fit

 

The best way to do this is to remove slide internals by removing screws then flexing plastic slide. then strip all parts off part 5 (metal part with square and rectangular shapes ) and file off the unwanted shapes. make it a snug fit but not to tight as to stretch the width of the slide. I used a set of vernier calipers to measure it, but a trial and error method will work if you are careful, try to take off the same amount off each side. Only file the shapes, if the file starts marking the whole side stop and see if it fits

 

Once it fits for width check that it does not interfere with the slide rails it might need fitting slightly to make it fit at the right height

 

Clean it dry it check it for small bits of metal and repeat again as any small bits missed might damage the seal and cause trouble later

 

Fit all parts back to part 5 in the correct places and fit it to the slide. use silicone gun oil on the seal ( part 6) and part 14

[bb_hood05]

Hey sniper, is it me or the stock spring hold up quite well with the metal slide? Cuz after a few shots the blowback has been quite effective once I finished.

[the sniper]

the standard recoil spring does do the job but the guarder recoil and hammer spring pack is very pleasing and not to much of a gas guzzler

[japbeercow]

Anyone have any problems with the blowback of the p226 with the guarder metal frame and slide on it? In addition, I also have the guarder upgrade springs installed. It seems that the blowback of the gun is very inconsistent. Sometimes the hammer doesn't recock and the blowback does not reload the bb. Any help would be appreciated.

[the sniper]

Is it venting gas at the same time, if it is then seal 6 which is in part 14 in might be damaged or the height of the mag might not be correct causing gas to vent from the seal between the mag and part 14 (tricky to fix)