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[Qhs]

I know that Guarder had this in the "Coming Soon" section for a long time, but instead of the old "HkM4D" marking, they used the new "Hk 416D." I don't know if it is from my e-mail, someone else's e-mail, or an employee of Guarder, now you can have an updated Hk 416 Metal Body!

Details of my e-mail:

Dear Intrudershop,

I just checked Hk Defence Hk416 site (http://www.hkdefense.us/pages/military-le/...ines/hk416.html) and instead of HKM4D, it says "HK 416 d" and then second line says something like "Hk 5.56mmX45" or "Hk Carbine" [You can see it slightly in this PDF article. 2nd image. Need to zoom about 285%] (http://www.hkdefense.us/corporate/media/pd...DR416_Oct05.pdf) I was wondering:

    * Will you use the old "HKM4D" or the new "Hk 416 d, Hk 5.56mmX45" or "Hk 416 d, Hk Carbine"?

Guarder's Response:

Hi,

Thank you for your advice.
I'll let our developed dept. know about that.
And please notice our website the information will be showed on it.
www.intrudershop.com

If you have more suggestion please let us know.

Regards,

Sebrina
IntruderShop

Ta Da!!...

Edited by Qhs, 27 November 2005 - 12:06 AM.

[staticzero]

Ah hell. I was considering purchasing one of these new generation Guarder bodies, figured it would be the KMC SR16 M4 body. Now I have a tough decision to make...

[david3558]

Go HK, do you think the dust cover will finally work?

[Sale]

According to Guarder, the dust cover works in their latest receiver kits.

Damn, it's just a few months ago that I got my Guarder 1st gen Bushmaster receiver. It had the lousy hop up chamber and everything.

Well, the actual receivers were really nice, though.

They never replied to my feedback, where I said that the threaded outer barrel for G18C/G17 has unrealistic hybrid cuts in it. A suppressor would make no sense in a barrel with hybrid cuts.

-Sale

[Chrissyg]

SWEEEEET! Im going to be buying one of them! But will the make the front end of the second pic down?!!!

[screamin_weasel]

if i had an armalite, this is the body i would want on it.

[H&K]

Excellent! I was gonna get the M4D one but now that this is out i make a proper HK416. (the only way i can justify getting myself an armalite is by saying its made by H&K )

cheers! H&K

[unimatrix001]

Ta Da!!...

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Unfortunately this Body is still wrong.

The HK416 upper receiver is not M4-MilSpec, the flat top receiver sits higher than on the standard M4 (compare the distance between the flat-top rail and the upper edge of the brass deflector) and it also has a different shape (note the step at the rear end behind the rear sight)

[Raptor3388]

And the magazine well is longer (nearly flat) on the HK416D

[Tinkerton]

oh look, its not *actually* a HK 416 body, its a HK M4 D body, with new trades!

how clever they think they are!

/sarcasm

[Big Tony]

its close enough i reckon.... Does anyone want to buy a HurricanE Hk M4D metal body from me? £90 posted lol

[screamin_weasel]

well perhaps they done this because changing the trades a pretty simple and big step to getting it right.

trades people will notice.

those minor dimension differences people wont, unless you hold a picture next to it, or are gun buffs.

and anyway, its still better than a colt/armalite branded one.

HK am best.

Edited by screamin_weasel, 27 November 2005 - 12:23 PM.

[Qhs]

Unfortunately this Body is still wrong.

The HK416 upper receiver is not M4-MilSpec, the flat top receiver sits higher than on the standard M4 (compare the distance between the flat-top rail and the upper edge of the brass deflector) and it also has a different shape (note the step at the rear end behind the rear sight)

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Correct there, but I don't think Guarder wants to make this exactly like the real Hk 416 or they will get slapped with a copyright infringement case (wrong?right?). Also Guarder would have to make a new mold or something (again, wrong?right?) of that sort and that would take months and the metal body might cost more. Now for the FF forend...

[Antagon]

So the receiver isn't an exact replica. Instead they made the upper to normal specifications, so that it can work with all other aftermarket parts.

You people bi*ch about it.

If they made it EXACTLY like the HK, and it didn't line up with the majority of the aftermarket parts..

You people would bi*ch about it.

No win situation it seems.

[Gene]

Don't worry Antagon, there's always haters

[Antagon]

Don't worry Antagon, there's always haters

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I hate you Gene

[Soloman]

Mmm.....

[screamin_weasel]

i am now having to forcefully remove the idea of buying a TM M16 and this body from my head.

*plugs in electric drill*

[Chrissyg]

DONT DO IT S_W! Its not worth it!

[screamin_weasel]

what me, or the HK body ?

*revs drill*

why?why?why?WHY MUST HK MAKE EVERYTHING WORTH BUYING !!!!!!!!!

*BBRRRZRZZRZZZZZZZ*