Catman Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Hmm well I searched the web for days, hurt my eyes on those funny japanese websites and typed endless search parameters into google and still I cannot find any type of threaded barrel for a WA Colt 1911. I really want to get a silencer put on my Western Arms Colt 1911 SCW ver2. That type of gun is so popular it begs the question: why has no one made such an accessory? Anyone know a solution? or can point me in the right direction. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
selfexiled Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 http://www.poweredgeusa.com/product.asp?Ca...yID=123&ID=2460 For a Para, but it ought to fit on all 1911s Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaFlash Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Don't expect your gun to cycle well... if at all with a silencer on the barrel. Link to post Share on other sites
HannibalSmith77 Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Don't expect your gun to cycle well... if at all with a silencer on the barrel. Why wouldn't it cycle fine? The slide would blowback, but unless I'm thinking wrong...the barrel won't move enough to prevent the gun from cycling. I put a comp on my gun (WA Para) that fits the profile, so it works great. I looked into putting a threaded comp which would be about the same as using a threaded silencer, I believe. Sorry if I'm all wet, but I really can't see why you'd have a problem with a silencer. Hannibal Link to post Share on other sites
bronney Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 *hands over towel* Your gun would cycle fine, a buddy here has 3 comped 1911, and 2 paras silenced. Nothing wrong with it. If it won't cycle well, why you think WA has a prokiller version? Link to post Share on other sites
Gene Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 It's the glock style barrel set-up that gives problems cycling with silencers. It's called a "Browning lock system" or something like that, but a 1911 is completely different and really shouldn't cause any trouble, unless the silencer weighs three times are much as the gun Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted January 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 http://www.poweredgeusa.com/product.asp?Ca...yID=123&ID=2460 For a Para, but it ought to fit on all 1911s Cheers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wow cheers - I'd dismissed Para parts because I didn't think they'd fit Has anyone fitted one of these on their 1911? I'm willing to take a chance but I'd be happier knowing someone else has successfully accomplished this Link to post Share on other sites
selfexiled Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 I can't offer a 100% endorsement. But, I can assure you that the chamber and barrel assembly on a 1911 is the same as that on a Para and SV Infinity. Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted January 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 That's fair enough, I've never seen a WA 1911 with a threaded barrel so there must be some technical reason - that or I need to look at more pictures of airsoft guns Also I tried looking around for that Part, hoping a UK dealer might have some in stock, but alas no joy - even tried some HK retailers to see if they stock it but no. Power Edge must make this stuff then...hence the P.E bit, lol Nevermind I'll take the risk and order the part - I'll post here when I get the part Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted January 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 LOL the shipping and handling costs more than the part don't tell my girlfriend, shes got enough shoes shhhhhh - Link to post Share on other sites
VinnyGT19 Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 If I'm not mistaken, these are threaded for the old Magna series chambers (Para/SV/old single stackers) and as such won't fit a stock SCW type gun. You might want to double check the threadings; Guarder has produced metal barrels and chambers back to the Magna days, so when the SCW line came along, their new SCW chambers were threaded with the old Magna threads so they dind't have to make a new barrel lineup. Try a Guarder chamber if you find that the PE threaded barrel has the old Magna threads. Link to post Share on other sites
ThaFlash Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 I have an old Sheriff steel barrel that threds onto both my SCW and Magna series chambers (stock WA) The problem when putting silencers on the WA 1911 is if the silencer is heavy, like the standard knights type silencers that people put on their AEG's. The weight pulls the barrel down which causes the chamber to stick onto the slide. I first saw the problem about 4 years ago when a customer tried using an aftermarket silencer on his WA PK 6". The problem is the same as what happens to the glock. The back of the barrle needs to drop in order for the gun to cycle properly, if a weight is placed far forward, there won't be enough force to bring the back down. For a silencer, stick with the KM featherweight series or other ultralight setups. Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted January 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Cool, cheers Hopefully it'll all fit nicely - Had an email this morning saying the package was on it's way so hopefully we'll know for sure in a few days Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 It's the glock style barrel set-up that gives problems cycling with silencers. It's called a "Browning lock system" or something like that, but a 1911 is completely different and really shouldn't cause any trouble, unless the silencer weighs three times are much as the gun <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The "Browning Lock System" of IIRC a more accurate name would be "Browing Swinging Link" is what all 1911's use, the Glocks use a modified version of this, whereby the barrel locks up into the ejection port instead of grooves in the slide and the swinging link is replaced with a cam. TheFlash has basically told yo everything you need to know. Try to find a nice light silencer to minimise feeding problems. Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted January 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 SUCCESS!!! WOOT!! :D Excuse the naff images, I took these with my phone as I'm currently without a digital camera. I did get rather stung though; I ended up paying $55 for shipping on top of the threaded barrel ($45) and then UPS charged me £21 (~$36) to get it past customs! However, I don't care..I'm rich...or was cheers selfexiled, +1 for you Link to post Share on other sites
Catman Posted January 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 I found my old (dead) TM tracer unit, the threading on it was a bit worn and damage but I managed to fit it on the barrel. The gun cycles fine with the "silencer". Now to go shopping for a proper silencer Link to post Share on other sites
Soloman Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Not that's sexy. Link to post Share on other sites
mr5parkl3 Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 hey guys, anybody know if the SV threaded barrel will fit and also, what's the difference between the barrels of the SV's, Para's, and 1911's? thanks... Link to post Share on other sites
Sale Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 SVI's usually have a bull barrel, while regular 1911's have a thin barrel and barrel bushing. You can use a bull barrel in a gun with a barrel bushing, but you need another way of keeping the recoil spring bushing in the slide. Like BigAl already said, 1911's actually were one of the first (if not The first) guns to use this locking method with a tilting barrel. Almost all modern handguns use this, except for Beretta who are trying to be unique at the cost of reliability and having more moving parts in their guns. Even Glocks cycle just fine with a threaded barrel AND suppressor, as long as you chose something else than the notorious G&G outer barrel. -Sale Link to post Share on other sites
mr5parkl3 Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 hey catman...just wondering...what thread is that? normal clockwise or counter clockwise?? thanks Link to post Share on other sites
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