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#1 Syndrome

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 09:46 PM

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Hey folks, found this and it is rather disturbing.

http://www.isra.org/

The bill HB4132 seeks to ban ANY REPLICA WEAPONS (including tanks and cannons in town squares and VFW's!!!).

A quote from ISRA:

"Never in my career have I seen such a slick attempt at instituting a state-wide gun ban," commented ISRA Executive Director Richard Pearson. "Nearly every firearm model for sale in Illinois was either designed for military use, or is used by the military for one purpose or another. Therefore, under this bill, nearly every pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun owned by Illinois citizens would be banned."

"The laughable part is that the scope of this bill goes way beyond conventional firearms," continued Pearson. "Every VFW and American Legion Post would have to remove the tanks and howitzers from their property or face prosecution. The cannon adorning town squares across the state would have to be rounded up and destroyed. The dummy grenade paperweight on your desk would have to go as well. Oh boy, and won't all the honor guards look pretty snappy shouldering broomsticks in the July Fourth parades next year?"

"HB4132 is so sweeping that it would go as far as to ban cap guns and water pistols," said Pearson. "Given that this is an election year, I can't wait to see how Rep. Chapa LaVia will spin her ban on squirt guns to her political advantage."

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http://ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp...80&SessionID=50


Here is the text of the actual bill: 

  Sec. 24-11. Replica military style weapons. 
8      (a) It is unlawful for any person to purchase, possess, 
9  use, sell, give away, or otherwise transfer, or to engage in 
10  the business of selling, or to exhibit for sale, any replica 
11  rocket propelled grenade launcher, bazooka, artillery piece, 
12  grenade, mine, bomb, or items similar to weapons designed and 
13  manufactured for military purposes or replicas of those items.
14      (B.) Sentence. A violation of this Section is a Class A 
15  misdemeanor

Rather vague, but it would become a crime in IL to own any "items similar to weapons designed and manufactured for military purposes or replicas of those items".  Not only would most real steel guns become illegal, but all of airsoft would be as well.  Please contact your representatives and let them know how you feel about this proposed law.


Note: The bill is unlikely to pass just because of the grand scale of items its going to ban, still if theres any arnie views out there in illinois that hasn't caught wind of this, make sure this bill gets the boot in the ass.

Edited by Syndrome, 25 January 2006 - 09:48 PM.


#2 Myro

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 10:39 PM

Our worst fears are coming true. It's just plain scary, even if it is unlikely to pass. I sure hope North Carolina doesn't follow suit.

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 10:50 PM

Ah so now it looks like you guys will be in the same boat as soon.

See you guy there wink.gif

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 10:52 PM

You guys havnt got a senator called Mrs Blears do you? dry.gif
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Posted 25 January 2006 - 10:55 PM

No but the seads of doubt have been planted they'll follow suit soon just give it time.

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 10:56 PM

What part of "Shall not be infringed" don't they understand?

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 10:58 PM

My friend none of it. Times change so do laws you just gotta go with the flow!

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 11:04 PM

Again this bill probably won't get passed, it's just a scary thought.

It's one thing to ban guns and replicas in the UK, but in the US, it's a whole different story. It'll be a lot harder. The NRA will fight to protect everything gun related. Not to mention the second amendment. And of course there are all those conservative republicans who like guns.

It could happen one day, but probably not in the near future.

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 11:09 PM

I live in Illinois and this bill enrages me. Especially the part about removing the old war things from VFW's and American Legions, its sickening that someone can even come up with something like this.

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 11:21 PM

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It's one thing to ban guns and replicas in the UK, but in the US, it's a whole different story. It'll be a lot harder.


We thought the same thing untill certain degree of incidents acoured just like yours. (if you don't know what I am looking at look at the Florida school shoot out thread) Now obviously I'm not saying it's going to happen now or tomorrow but if this keeps up give it a couple of years and you'll end up like merry old england wink.gif

Also iirc the nra was built up by the goverment, so inturn the goverment can stip it from it's powers

#11 strategery

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 11:21 PM

They can have my airsoft guns, once they've dealt with my and my real steel guns.

Spedz the NRA is no longer controlled by the govt what so ever. They are just a private lobbyist organization.

Edited by strategery, 25 January 2006 - 11:22 PM.

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#12 Spedz

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 11:24 PM

Ah my history is a little patchy and all that jazz but let me give you a little warning... Your darkest day is yet to come.

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 11:30 PM

QUOTE (spedz_fx @ Jan 25 2006, 06:21 PM)
QUOTE (myro)
It's one thing to ban guns and replicas in the UK, but in the US, it's a whole different story. It'll be a lot harder.


We thought the same thing untill certain degree of incidents acoured just like yours. (if you don't know what I am looking at look at the Florida school shoot out thread) Now obviously I'm not saying it's going to happen now or tomorrow but if this keeps up give it a couple of years and you'll end up like merry old england wink.gif

Also iirc the nra was built up by the goverment, so inturn the goverment can stip it from it's powers


Well hate to tell them this but for some reason the Supremecy Clause dictates that federal power shall dictate over state power... which means all guns are protected by the Second Amendment... Replicas (since they can be treated as a real firearm for criminal cases, and replica's other wise are still protected. Just remember calif. kiddies, Mary Jane may be legal while the Calif state police are around but when the FBI knocks at your door, your SCREWED... same concept for Airsoft except the reverse... Federal law says we can have em, state law says we cant, Federal wins out... Hopefully this law wont pass since its obvious bullocks, but The removal of all deact weapons form town squares has already happened in my town next to the American Legion building, which is a DAMN shame too (that 5 in. deck gun was fun to play around with)
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Posted 25 January 2006 - 11:49 PM

This better not go through. As an airsofter in Illinois, along with some friends, this would just suck. It would also suck because we are about to get some more people into airsoft, but if this goes through....oh no...

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 11:49 PM

As airsoft isn't classified as toys here, they are protected by the constitution, I believe. I can't exactly remember the last time that we have ratified the constitution, but I don't see it happening today.

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Posted 25 January 2006 - 11:51 PM

Look we've had the Power to the people Cack as well and tbh it just doesn't work. Like I said though be warned you may find that if this kind of thing keeps cropping up ever other state It may go all federal.

Also Urpeace keeper I thought the federal age for alcohol was 21 yet some states it is 18 how so?

#17 UrPeaceKeeper

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Posted 26 January 2006 - 12:09 AM

QUOTE (spedz_fx @ Jan 25 2006, 06:51 PM)
Look we've had the Power to the people Cack as well and tbh it just doesn't work. Like I said though be warned you may find that if this kind of thing keeps cropping up ever other state It may go all federal.

Also Urpeace keeper I thought the federal age for alcohol was 21 yet some states it is 18 how so?


Last I knew it was 21 everywhere, The same concept applies in California with Mary Jane, as any state with the 18 drinking law, if a federal agent catches you doing it, your screwed, any other local police agency, its a ok... It depends on how far you want to take it but the power of the state does not SUPERCEED the Constitution or the federal government.
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Posted 26 January 2006 - 12:14 AM

QUOTE (Gandalf @ Jan 25 2006, 06:56 PM)
What part of "Shall not be infringed" don't they understand?


as they say in the "history" books these days... "the second amendment gives people the right to raise a militia". ok so the second amendment gives us the right to defend ourselves in case of attack? god they're dumb. sad.gif

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Posted 26 January 2006 - 12:16 AM

i kno that ohio wouldnt be affected b/c the half the state would riot. mainly b/c the most of the southeastern part of the state are redneck hunters. rolleyes.gif

Edited by an_azn45701, 26 January 2006 - 12:18 AM.


#20 HKG36

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Posted 26 January 2006 - 12:21 AM

There's know way that law will because there a lot of gun owners Illinois and hunting is really big up there.





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