Youtube link
WGC Page
Looks pretty nice.

This peaks my interests. Good find comrade :3

Wow, didn't know it could do that. TMs AK74 just lost alittle bit of that "different" feeling.

Same here lol. TM's AK74M has some competition now...

Nice find! Sarge133 - It's not a new innovation by any means, I suspect that this is nothing like Marui's system however, probably closer to Guarder's offering.

whoa what the heck, so this feature comes with the gun when you buy it?? i wonder if VFC has any other tricks up their sleeves....

wow this is going to make my decision between VFC AIMS and SCAR even harder

QFT!

I definately did not see this coming. That's pretty cool, I really like the AIMS, and I hear VFC is a great company, and I'm really interested in the blowback too! This looks like a really amaizing gun, for $418.

EDIT:

AIMS.

Heh, tell me about it. was NOT expecting that....

hum, AIMS? hhuumm....ya i think im leaning more towards the AIMS right now. i just want to find out how this blowback mech works and hope it doesnt eat up battery juice

I remembered someone posted this on the AK pic thread he had one of these, but did not mention anything about BB in his. Could this be a second version?

And I think he got his from Kapowwe though, anyways nice find.


Whatch out TM, VFC is going for the NECK!!!

looks great, just hope it will have some life in it.

indeed - suffers same bolt stops where the piston is issue as the old school ones (though by looks of the video might be connected via the side of the box rather than on the top)

Nobody who already has the gun ever mentioned any blowback, so this must be some 2nd. version. Personally, I don't like baby-blowback. If VFC is going to equip all their guns like this, I hope it will be removable.

Cool, will that gearbox be sold separetly?

WHAT... THE... FCUK!?!!! Well that came out of left field!

hmm lemme think "we'll go to the effort of trying to make our latest AK stand out from the crowd and then sell the gearbox seperately so that everone elses AK can do the same thing as ours" doubt it

mill a slot in your existing gearbox hook up a guarder auto back bolt and you'ld have the same functionality in any case (though Id alter the guarder autoback a little so the part on the bolt that contacts with the gearbox is slotted rather than just a hole like they seem to be in all the photos)

Advantge of the AIMS is you dont need to fart around doing any of that yourself if you're after an auto back bolt (assumin you want the usual issues of an autoback bolt in first place).

If its simply a bolt mod and no attempt at simulating recoil then the VFC bolts arent all that heavy and shouldnt have too much of an impact on battery juice

nice. it'll be nice to have a bit more noise even if there isnt much recoil (although it does seem to shake the gun a bit, look at the handguard takedown lever shaking)

just shows a rattly loose takedown lever if you ask me

Oh look, another ###### 'blowback' gun. What the hell is the point? The bolt barely travels any distance - certainly not enough to suggest ejecting a full sizr cartridge - and probably without any real feeling to it as well. It's just another gimmick that is pointless and adds to the complexity - even if only in a miniscule way - of the aeg. And another ingress point for dirt etc.

GBB's are great, they not only recoil exactly like the real thing, they do it for the same reason and they are a damn sight easier to clean. AEG 'blowback'? You can keep it thanks.

looks like they're using a "11.1V 1400mAh Li-Mn" stick battery, wonder if the internals were standard stock? BTW what's Li-Mn? Is that same as Li-Po?

I'm guessing you've never fired a real pistol? GBBs blow back is ###### compared to the kick of a real handgun.

As for VFC and they're Blowback AEG... That's ###### too. Makes me even that more glad I'm buying the parts to make my own AIMS.

Ugh that puts the gun on my ###### list.
Unless you can buy it sans that.

Actually, it's not. I have blowback installed on my AK... It's not real, but it's a helluva lot better than your bog-standard airsoft AEG.

I do think the Marui Blowback is way better though... but the exterior of the aims looks better. that's my opinion.

Instead of the altered 'OmG aM nOT A ArmA1337 So iT AM SukzS!!!!!' comments moving bolts seem to be the future of airsoft and i cant wait till somebody can compare the VFC to the Marui. Odds are VFC will be better because they got the name of the gun right were Marui never accomplished that

EDIT: Ignore that.

Boar, just read the entry at WGC. It's not a custom gun, it's stock.



You can simply take out the wire that connects the piston to the bolt and voila: AIMS without blowback. The gun didn't more expensive when they added the blowback, so you really don't have anything to whine about.

who cares if there isnt much kick? it'll be better than a normal AEG and make a much more intimidating noise.

it suffers from none of the disadvantages of the TM, you can use normal batteries, you can use normal mags, it is full steel VFC quality. what more do you want?

i dont get why so many people complain about AEG blowback, sure its pretty weak, but its certainly better. and considering it costs no more than the original NBB version, why complain? surely even a slight improvement on an already good gun at no extra cost is something to be glad of, not imediately disown it because it doesnt kick like a GBB.

Instead of the altered 'OmG aM nOT A ArmA1337 So iT AM SukzS!!!!!' comments moving bolts seem to be the future of airsoft and i cant wait till somebody can compare the VFC to the Marui.

what on earth are you on about? That makes no sense whatsoever I dont see any hidden armalite fanboyism in any message on this thread

Odds are VFC will be better because they got the name of the gun right were Marui never accomplished that


aye and a ten quid springer properly named AK47 is going to be better than a G&G improperly named RK104 I suppose

Odds are VFC will be better because it'll be easier to disable it than its marui equiv Plus the cost of ownership of buying a gun with it wont trickle down into being left to source proprietary parts to keep the gun running. As far as the systems themselves are concerned Im not impressed with either

However when it comes to evaluating which is better doing what they're supposed to do then from the videos at least marui has tried to incorporate some sort of simulated recoil in theirs AND addressed the issue of the bolts position being tied to wherever the piston comes to rest. VFCs on the other hand looks like a quick delve into the old autoback system with none of its issues addressed (other than maybe sidemounting it rather than top mounting it) Strikes me as something they decided would be a nice cheap n dirty gimmick to add to their guns and nowt more than that.

Its a different style of auto bolt, if you look at it when he has the top cover open the mech for it is on the bolt side and not on the top. Will be interesting to see when we are able to get some more information

sidemount or top mount I already mentioned in both previous posts

Mounting orientation that its using doesnt change the basic design principle (or design weaknesses) behind it - if you look at self same video you'll see its still reliant on piston position to dictate where the bolt ends up - same as the top mounted variety.

Hey guys, let's argue about which is better - the VFC blowback we've never tried or the TM blowback we've never tried.

I don't get what's so impressive? It looks identical to the Guarder autoback bolt for regular TM AKs (not the AK-74M). Just a dinky little thin bolt carrier that is attached to the piston.

The TM AK-74M one seems more impressive, as it looks like a lot of weight is being thrown around. Still short movement due to piston travel limitations.

Apologies, didn't make myself clear. The blowback on the GBB is a full stoke, thats what I meant. I am fully aware of the blowback of a real handgun having owned several before the UK ban and fired many more. The most impressive being a Desert Eagle .50 - now that was impressive....

You could own a desert eagle pre ban in the uk? wow did not think you could get anything that large, anyway back on topic, yes its not 'that' impressive but its a development and moving forward and upwards, i see it in development in small steps, I'm very interested in the gbb but its will not always be practical so anything that enhances airsoft in a small way is always nice, and anyway it does not seem to have increased the price of the vgc aims so to me its a bonus unlike the TM AK where you pay a premium for it.

*pre-orders AIMS*

I never liked AK's until I saw this..

The system itself is a crude and rudimentary piece of engineering - I don't understand why a moving bolt would make an aeg "better". Firstly, it doesn't make it 'more realistic'; the bolt moves all of a few centimetres, and in doing so stops the user from racking the bolt without presumeably stripping the piston or breaking the bolt carrying pin or assembly. Secondly, from a reliability point of view, there appears to be no fail safe mechanism developed as of yet, so catching the bolt during firing would result in damage or failure of the gearbox. The design also results in a large, open rectangular slot somewhere on the gearbox, which invites all manner of grit/sand/moisture. And why are comments are being made along the "it's free, it's cool, so don't compain" lines ? there is no reason why someone should have to buy a gun with a mechanism which is shoddily thought out, and although it can be disabled, you will probably end up with a bolt mechanism that flops about and a gaping hole in the gearbox which will reduce the reliablilty and operating life of the gearbox. I am by no means a VFC hater - I own an AKS-74UN, an HK416 dx and an M60e4, all of which are brilliant weapons with excellent innovations in each. But this is ######, and always will be ###### until someone thinks up a better system.

Ed.

Wrong on several points.
1st, you can cock the bolt independently of the piston assemble. The system works by having the piston push back a small rod attached to the bolt.
2nd, there is no need for a fail safe. Having intentionally tried, I couldn't manage to break the system. Even jamming the bolt just stopped the system, nothing stripped. Maybe with low-quality parts it'll do so, but not here. It just seized up.
3rd, the hole doesn't mean dirt will get in. I've run my setup for over 50,000 rounds and the dirt collected has been negligible. Your mileage may vary, but from my experience unless you're horribly abusing the gun it should be just fine.

Also its VFC, there replace near enough any parts for free (as long as they are VFC)

errm, yes, it does make it more realistic. it doesnt make it realistic, but it is more realistic than no bolt movement and cycling lose at all

That bolt looks pretty fragile to me though.... the gun looks awesome, it really does, but that bolt..... wondering whether it lasts long

looks like a typical VFC bolt just hooked up to a blowback system, in which case it'll be a pretty solid and surprisingly thick lump of steel. shouldnt be any durability problems there.

I know it exists in real life, and that VFC is generally known to make excellent replicas... But that is the most fugly AK47 I've ever seen

its not an AK47, its an AIMS (which is an AKM varient)

Semantics. It's an AK47.

Speaking of the AK47, I wish VFC would make one of those or an AKM.

Soon available at Airsoft Assist and our dealers!

www.airsoftassist.eu

1. Thanks for clearing up the first point - I assumed that the VFC system would use a 'solid' bolt mechanism (ie which was hard mounted to the piston)
2. I've seen at least four or five guarder auto back kits run themselves to bits from being caught or handled roughly, one of mine included (which failed on the first auto burst); I don't know which setup you are using but it seems to be a lot more durable than the ones that I've seen.
3. Of the above installations, I've repaired two guns with these kits installed, and the gearboxes had scratch marks all over the casing from where grit had come between the shim and the gears. Admittedly these guns are used at a site where the ground is mainly sand/fine dust, so that would explain the above average collecton of dirt.

I didn't mean to come across as arsey, but I feel that until manufacturers come up with a decent mechanism then they should abandon this idea, as it will cause more problems for inexperienced users and those who just want a reliable weapon without a poorly implemented gimmick.

Ed.

Quoted for truth.

I hope this works reliably, but will wait for a hands on review until I personally decide to buy.

Ok having fired the Tokyo Marui with Blow back action I can honestly say that the blow back from a mosquito farting is more powerful, its a gimmick and if that’s the variant of AK74 M you are after then I would suggest the new ICS or other brands on the Market.

I have the VFC AIMS and it is currently in pieces for review, I fired off the AIMS before striping it and although it is nothing like firing any form of firearm it is a lot more powerful then the Tokyo Marui, so much in fact that it is enjoyable to fire.

As for reliable systems well these are products with moving parts, they need frequent cleaning, lubricating and maintenance so there is no such thing as a product that is 100% reliable.

At the end of the day any form of Blow Back action will only be a gimmick, I for one having real steel experience welcome it, as others have said I’m bored with the standard gear box and I’m looking for something a little more …..well yes gimmicky without having to pay through the nose for an unreliable gas system with external rig.

I guess my next two guns are going to be VFCs =\