I have just been informed, KWC is working on a KWC GBB (more than likely CO2) G36 with full H&K trades,

This should be released in the early part of next year.



Also due for release in around July 2009 is a Full trades Sig Sauer P226 X-FIVE tactical CO2 pistol.

Running the same System as the PT99 Taurus pistol.

more information will be posted when i get it

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GBB G36? Oh gawd...goodbye expendable income

whatever happened to their CO2 m4s

KWC-->umarex/cybergun?

Don't like that.

Oh well, we'll see what happens.

yea but take a look at the review of my Tuarus PT99 on my website. there good pistols and ill hopefully get to review the G36.

I don't doubt that, but you know how it goes with the licensing in Europe and the US.

i hope to be sourcing KWC products directly from KWC them selves soon so will hopefully get the ones with out any other trades.

well I think it's safe to say I shall be buying one.

pics or it isn't true lol

pics of the P226 are coming soon, model is nearing production

G36 is still in development and pics will come as soon as KWC have them

G36, or G36C?

unknown, ill find out monday if i can for you

P226 with or without the ghey rail?

its the X-five tactical, if you goto my website at www.madmercsairsoft.co.uk then go to the airsoft news, there is a click here link with the real steel pistol details.

I have asked for production pictures for people.

THank you, my friend.

If it will have full H&k trades that must mean that they are working with Umarex?

Kwc held the license to make a Pistol with H&K trades but that had to be branded under Uramex.

I beleive kwc are working with H&K to have the g36 branded under kwc but again, when i get more details everyone will get informed.

Check my website for more details aswell as ill post there 1st.

OK thanks for the answer.

welcome, ill try and get the P226 pictures soon for those interested,

ill also try to get some sneak pics of the G36 in the prototype stage when i find out more. (i might struggle with this)

also when the P226 is released ill get my hands on one to review for the interested parties.

as promised answer to some of the questions

Half metal?

yea

the Uzi has a metal internal frame where the bolt slides, and a plastic/abs outer

this is how the G36 will be also

I see now thanks, they said anything about the location of the CO2? External, internal or in the magazine?

YAY, GBB G36

If its anything like the Uzi It will be 12g cartridges inside the mag's.

Glad to see they will be making lots of versions of it. MG36 GBB! Now, will they make a working co2 beta mag? Hmm? Hmm?

But G36 mags are transparent, a co2 on there wouldn't look very good.

Dear god, please make this externally powered.

i have passed on this comment and a few more.

i mentioned we want a MG36, SL9 varient aswell (sl9 for me)

Also that we want Internal, external, both and also mag powered varients.


they said thank you for the feed back and ideas.

And a nice hop up system would be nice too, like a VSR type

mentioned that to them aswell now, aswell as a 6.03 precision barrel

toaster for cooking poptarts?

Answer to teh licensing issue with the H&K trades on the G36,

KWC are buying the license off Uramex

I knew it!

Any prototype photos yet?

not yet,

once they have the license (in the final stages currently), they're starting the prototype (or will release more details).

Would it be too much to suggest that if internal powered co2, that the gun could run from a removeable co2 cartridge holder that can be bought seperately. That way, you could have the option to connect a hose for external tank (HPA or CO2 rig) or plug in the internal tank. Also, I suppose again would it be too much trouble to allow you to use a co2 mag, or the internal/external tank on the same gun, a kind of one gun, several different options kind of thing?

I love the idea of a gas powered G36, and I will definately get one if it has the HK trades on it. I love the gas guns, have an escort mp5 and love it to bits, although I would like one like the WE M4 that has the gas mags, so if they made a decent gas mp5 that had the gas in the mags then I would buy a few of those too!

I must say that my experience with any of thier guns is a very pleasant one, and they are certainly one of my top manufacturers. I have found that every gun I have, although I have ended up customizing (and be honest, who doesnt?) them, have all worked fantastically straight out of the box, and unlike other manufacturers do not need customizing in order to work. So, bearing this in mind, I am really looking forward to seeing this take shape.

ive emailed him your comments

Richard

So they will actually listen to our comments? They have gone up even further in my estimations as not only making some really good guns, but actually listening to the end user to make them better. Great! Many thanks for that, and I am really looking forward to getting at least one of those, although something tells me I will end up with a few. I wish more companies did this.

I have to say I'm quite surprised by the number of people that have GOOD things to say about KWC.

Every GBB (gas or CO2) gun I've seen/used from KWC has been rubbish. I wonder if the guns that come to the US are their "factory seconds" or something.

all KWC items ive bought/received have been fantastic

I only had one and i wasn't impressed with it lol, let's hope that this G36 will prove to be good.

I had the original KWC magtop blowback systems on a Caspian, Glock17, Sig 226 and a beretta, total rubbish. I had their springers also.

Then I had their magna blowback M92 copy (WA clone), then their Caspian redone with a magna valve (hammer doesn't function to strike the gas release, it was a double action), then I had their Desert Eagle GBB and that was impressive (still not as good as the marui), though the half metal CO2 version was shockingly bad.

But then I had their Mini UZI, and that was just top notch. Though that is technically a joint WA/KWC project. Blowback system is based on the magna but the valve spring is missing, like the newer CO2 Desert Eagles and the Sigma. Surprisingly nice. One thing I am concerned is that the hold open is really the blowback unit catching on the magazine feeding pusher and that may break with the force of the bolt slamming into it. Something to be wary I guess.

Good if KWC is looking at a G36, chances are it will be as good as the Mini UZI if that is true. The G36 has a bolt catch internally, so please make a proper hold open. CO2 somewhat makes it unskirmisable and the WA system isn't great for accuracy but I guess we will find out if its any good or if its vapourware.

it will be based on the uzi system as im aware, this dont seem to be vapourware as it came from KWC directly., i did not ask of new models, he mentioned new models were coming and these were the 2 he mentioned. I double checked a few times before posting this.

Also ill post the comments regarding the internal bolt catch.

Regards

Richard

Any more news?

Any more news?
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+2!

yeah, I'd really like to know whats going on with this. G36 will be highly popular, if its any good.

just emailed, we'll see what they say.

got an email back from cybergun.. I know, I know its not directly KWC, but they have no HK licensing as far as the representative knew. That's not good news in my book.

sorry for another bump this week, but i sent an email to KWC asking what variants they plan on making for the G36, and if they maybe planned to make an Xm8 and heres the response.

R.I.P. KWC G36 GBB Series.

S.A.D.L.Y.