i update this as i go and pictures i will add later when i return home, big news and bombs and on some things Chas was right owe you mate an apology for crushing your news down

Boyi Aka DBoys Aka Kalash news first
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for the record it goes like this, i confirmed it with the big man himself, i've been wondering this myself also sometimes as many label them as "DBoys"

Boyi airsoft makes M4/M16 etc
Kalash makes AKs obviously
DBoys is the name for their accessories only not for the guns!

and some new models coming up it looks like another christmas again

RPK is the real deal under works right now! and not just RPK they also make RPK-S! with the folded wooden stock!
their RK-01 GAS is ready as it can be(Its magazine took 48 BBs inside), but cannot be sold due to an agreement with GHK for about 4 months but is rock solid that model, man that gun has some kick (they had it on pot metal body but they said it would be a steel body when released)
M4 GAS is real deal! they had the WE there on the table haha i knew it straight away (he told me on the phone before that they dont make but he told me when i saw him, cannot reveal all by long distance when face to face can tell more easily)
M16A1 AEG under works!
M16A3 AEG under works
for Kalash line
AK-47 and AKM under works
KAC PDW is ready for sale, man it looks pretty cool even its very compact size.
SC-02 aka SCAR Heavy! almost done but needs still maybe 2 months, they have been very busy now (they started to build a new factory already we visited there 9 story building)
RK-10 is imminent release within weeks it should hit the streets
RK-15 is delayed a bit they have some problem with some parts not gotten ready
RK-10 and RK-15 will be released in Pot Metal and STEEL simultaneusly on release!
that MEU in that traders website is real deal also they are making their own MEU nothing to do with Army! GAS meu also
they are planning on M14 clone, not start to make yet but planning to make it as soon as they have time for it!

tomorrow i will meet with Army, AGM and WELL, i will post here as i go updates. any questions shoot in here or in my inbox and i can ask them anything needed when i meet with them! might be something else also but i just came from a bar and im bit tipsy

forgot to add, JING GONG was raided by cops last month and it has been down since people dont know what is going on with them totally but they are shutdown for now not producing anything at the moment.

forgot to say also under the Kalash line they are considering the Dragunov as well they said that they will wait out first for the A&K to come out to see its quality which they want to improve on

BIG big thanks <3

Thanks for posting the news.Is there any news on the SCAR H & underslung Grenade Launcher or the Browning hi power?

Scar heavy is coming pretty soon 2+ months anymore, i forgot to ask about the launcher, i ask tomorrow and so far i didnt hear anyone making a browning but well see, still many places to go!

Thanks for the fast reply you're a star!

oh wow Dboys making an M14! That's great since it seems the CYMA M14 is nowhere to be found now.

Thank you Frontiers, allways helping us to decide where to spend our bucks.

DOnt know the rest of the people, but If you asked Army about details on their SOPMOD I would be quite grateful

Will they produce an M4 variants line (socom carbine, SOPMOD, CQB...) or just the SOPMOD?

Will mags be 30 or 82 rds selectable like the ones produced by Marui?, and estimated price

Is their model reinforced in anyway Marui SOPMOD isnt?

And if you can get an estimated price of the AEG would be awesome


Funny thing is that I allways thought that Boyi would be the one cloning the SOPMOD...

Thanks again

PDW is ready oh man i will order it as soon as it is launched

I would be interested if AGM comes out with some cheap Magazines for their Gas M4-Series!

well i'll be damned! there really IS a god!
i swear if it's got the correct receiver i'll convert, after all they're bothering to make the S model (unless they just rip off the AK74M locking mech, but still.)

a proper plum/black polymer model would be awesome too.

No cyma?

Nice work Frontiers!


I wonder why they are bothering to release pot metal versions at all, if the steel ones are ready to go? There's only a few $ between them usually.

agreed, I can see the point of using up a bundle of pot metal parts then slowly moving over to steel only construction on new models (and revisiting the originally mixed models when inventory allows)

but there cant be many folks who would knowingly take the pot metal afflicted version for the sake of the few dollars price difference between them. It just leaves folks constantly having to ask their suppliers is this the steel one or the steel and pot metal mix one

Better to just bite the bullet and have all the new models produced as steel only - then folks only have to make that sort of enquiry of the older models in case shops still have old stock.

I would like a KAC PDW but I just have no faith in Dboys to produce anything reliable

Please inquire with AGM as to the whereabouts of their MG42. How far along is it? Any photos would be helpful as well. Vanderer said it was 6 months out, and that was 5 months ago. Hopefully we will see it soon.

Personally, i'd be rather interested in what direction AGM are heading with their WW2 series. Will we see anything for those who aren't interested in the German side of things?

I wanna clone BAR!!!

and The Badger wants the scalp of Ryan Seacrest, doesn't mean its gunna happen though.... unless someone in hollywood would be so kind as to assist a humble Badger in a most righteous quest....

in other news, scar-h. needs moar of it.

hey guzzi if you do get one get me one aswell, we'll bit the bullet together XD

Those gas rifles sound exciting, now I won't have to spend a small fortune on a gas rifle system. Hopefully it can be skirmishable out of the box, but that's asking for way too much.

Just when I lost hope that the PDW was going to be released, this pops up....

Damn, if the price is right, I'll be getting the PDW very soon......

If you had been keeping tabs pf the KAC thread youd know it was ready, and that it would cost a little more than the Dboys SCAR-L

Vanderer = Frontiers

How severe was the raid? When they raided Cyma, they confiscated the molds used to make the Glock AEP and Thompson, to name a few. Any reports on what happened at JG?

Also, I don't think that a spring SVD (as the A&K is a clone of AtoZ) would be in demand since Realsword finally released their AEG. I handled the AtoZ one and spring is stupidly stiff, also shooting the gun is pretty slow since you have to cock it after every shot (unlike the real deal) .

And now, for more factory-specific questions:
Does Well have plans for more GBB submachine guns, ie. Skorpion, Steyr TMP, Mini-Uzi etc.?
Which model is the AGM GBB M4 based on? If the Boyi one is based on WE and AGM is based on WA, both company are in for nice profit from selling the magazines alone (not mentioning the spare parts, which I suspect to be traditionally rock-hard - remember the situation where it turned out that Well's gears were the best stock ones, able to withstand as much abuse as reinforced aftermarket ones?)
Is Army planning to release the L85A2 at last?
Any news from A&K? I'm pretty interested in their M60VN...

What about Kalashnikov PK/PKM machine gun?

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...howtopic=167739

AGM: MG42 and check if they have plans to release mid-caps for the STG44 as that would inmprove sales here in europe.

ARMY: The sopmod and L86.

will come together with the Scar Heavy launched at sametime!



i will post Army news in 10mins


I visited Cyma also today



they just got the Moulding ready its progressing now! eta maybe 2+ months but is progressing now before i was just delayed for some weird reason

Army
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M4 line (consisting for about 6 models) is under way not just M4 Sopmod, next model in that line will be released inside 3 months time and next one is M4A1 blowback continuing the recoil engine, M4 Sopmod is due in 1 months time ready for sales.
Magazine size for M4 Sopmod is 420Rds HiCap no have 30Rds or 82Rds planned like someone asked.
i told him i heard that Marui has some weaknesses so he asked me if i can get some info and give him a list so he can take a look if he can do anything about it, so who knows about these let me know and lets try to help him out.
no have price decided yet for the sopmod. and Biggest news for Chas! we talked today and i got his head over it, ARMY is making KIMBER as his next GBB Pistol!! he asked me to give him proper trademarks for it and best quality picture for it(and he said he though of making it before he made MEU but he decided that time to make MEU instead)
factory model names for M4 Sopmod is R40 and for M4A1 is R41.
the L86 model CAD drawings are ready and manufacturing for parts has started it should come out before november!
also R85A2 is under works they are looking to make the parts for it and they are making some kind of an "uppgrade version of the original R85A1 model to fix the problems it has"
Golden MEU (R27 golden model) will be start to manufacture next month, it will be very limited edition.

WELL
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their latest sniper MB-06 small sniper gun but it looks kinda cool, later show you pictures
G96 (AWW 338 if i wrote it right the STAR clone if i remember right, 530FPS on the spot, pretty hard shot and pretty good scope on it, shot few times with it.
G-88 new MP5 GAS gun, the correct model name is G3 SAS (i looked this name from Jing gong list and google with fixed stock) shoot pretty good also!
all 3 models will be released in beginning of June the G96, G88 and the MB-06 sniper
damn M4 they let me shoot with it and play and all but dont take picture of that...it was all steel colour without any surface of it looked like they where mad that someone leaked those pictures earlier so photos on that one they said about 2 months away that model before release, it will be without any trademarks or carvings they said they will not do any markings on that.
they decided also for the Kimber gas pistol not to do because (they said too risky as there is too many M1911 Gas pistols now apparently so they dont want to take a risk and maybe cannot sell it)

AGM
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M4 gas model 061 factory name is released and is cheap as butter, i couldnt believe how cheap its price is even compare on the hong kong prices (if anyone want to know the price, PM and i can tell you but i dont want it to be public here because of other retailers, this way hope i dont offend anyone ), the RAS model is not ready not be released before June 8th so if anyone order that or is thinking of ordering, wait as its not ready yet. the RAS version is 062 model
they had also new GAS blowback Micro UZI clone of KSC (have pictures of all models, later show you)
like i said earlier MG42 is progressing now, moulding is ready and now they start to make the small parts, it shouldnt be long anymore before it sees the daylight

CYMA
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CM048-S AKMS i think release date on June 15th ETA about soon anyways
CM041 MP5K and CM041PDW release date end of next month (June)
biggest news from Cyma was they are making full line of M4 models!
beginning with M4 CQB with full trademarks (have pictures) release date for first model end of next month also its Electric! not GAS. and CM032 new mould still not ready, they said sometime end of next month should be ready.

heres the quick recap, later i add more might remember more what happened today tomorrows plan is to meet with KS (who make the P90 and new Gas USP) and Jin Peng to see what happened to their SIG 556, A&K is closed (its public holiday tomorrow and they said they dont take anyone tomorrow to meet with them so well see if i can catch them this time or not, later update infos)
and any watermark specialists around who have time? PM me with your email and i can send you some pictures so we can post them up here for everyone to see!

Small update of M4 GAS (the Boyi model is WA as i saw the real one the packaging and all, someone wrote that Boyi version would be WE, its not its WA certainly 100% sure as i saw the real deal with its packaging ) same as AGM model WA and Well told me when i said if its a clone of WA they said how do i know haha too many small birds in internet these days

please ask army as to when there spare MEU mags will be ready either that or what other brands are compatible with it

MEU spare mags have already can buy.

Sad news, I like JG clones!!!

Should I start snapping JG clones right now?

B

Are Cyma likely to produce the Thompson again ?

no plans to make midcaps for STG44 i asked this earlier already.

any plans on the M14 cyma again??

it was pretty severe because factory has been closed for a month already, they still dont know when they will open back to manufacturing.


yeah i said also its better be electric but maybe they want to see if there is a need for it, if A&K can sell those any good amounts.


G3 SAS is next, i think not coming skorpion or TMP or Mini-UZI at the moment (AGM releases mini UZI)
AGM is WA (Boyi is based on WA i saw the carton box where was the original from which they clone it from) and L85A2 is under works, coming.

Is there any news on agm producing a sten or a ppsh?

end of next month CM032 ready new mould

none, they said more M4's coming now MG42 should be only one WW2 item for next half year that comes out but never know sometimes they dont spill all the secrets out

they told me that they will not re-produce the mould anymore apparently sales werent that high on that model

goooooood finally

G88, I hope its metal bodied as I refrained from getting the JG version because its plastic. I read it somewhere that one of the G3 variants from JG has metal reciever but now this news of the factory.

I bought the G5K just days earlier when I read news of the Cyma Mp5K with metal reciever. Darn! But its ok, I am having fun with the G5K still. Hopefully the Cyma version will have blowback!

B

G88 its all metal body, very heavy and nice looking later tonight you can see pictures, one of the Forum members promised to watermark them i send them to him soon. later he will post here (Snorkelman) actually for Cyma models i didnt check if they are a blowback tomorrow i ask MP5K and MP5PDW if they are a blowback or no, i saw them but didnt shoot with them as they where not really "new" models so i didnt waste my time on them as i was on a pretty tight deadline so can meet with everyone.

Thanks for sharing, Frontier!!! That is great news indeed!!!

Rereading your post in pg 2, SIG 556 copy in the works??? YES PLEASE!!! Looking forward to the pics! Thanks!

B

tomorrow is scheduled a meet with JP (Jin Peng) so i can check with them why its late the SIG 556 it was supposed to come out already but for some weird reason did not. later i update after i meet with them.

You are my hero Do you know if TM sopmod mid-cap mags will be compatible whit Armys Sopmod aeg?

i ask tomorrow, later let you know

Excellent news, Frontiers! Every "tornee thread" you post is like a little birthday present!

great news on the Kimber!

its all thanks to you, im pretty sure we wouldn't have an ACM Kimber if you would had not pushed it

i didnt hear or see a word of PKM from anyone so far so i might be just a rumour. RPK and RPK-S is coming hope you didnt mix that one to this model

i sent the pictures to Snorkelman already, if you dont see them after a while bang his door haha